The fools are those thinking AI is anything more than just an advanced palm pilot handwriting model
this post was submitted on 08 May 2025
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It's funny how many people still are afraid of technology.
Why did we start using steak sauce on everything, anyway?
They'll run out of coolant and electricity before they get anywhere near that.
The fearmongering is also a part of the AI hype. If AGI was anywhere close, do you really think the Microsoft and NVIDIA stock would be doing crab walk on the exchange?
AImen brotha
I'm not worried. The robot leopards won't eat MY face.
Conner wouldn't stare, she'd just fucking shank you.
Robocop vs Terminator was a interesting comic. The premise being that Skynet interacted with RoboCop's cyborg brain which is how it gained sentience and was able to bring about war. The fact it was a cops brain, well there you go.
Why we only make reality out of movies that are technology driven. Humanity would never visualize aliens, it makes they never get real. Fuck that. I want alien vs predator. I want fucking ET, district 9, arrival and shit like that.
I want to believe.
Microsoft is literally turning on 3 mile island to run AI
I'd rather them use nuclear than oil to power that stuff but its still kinda annoying
The scariest part of this is all the rural land they're buying up. The rural areas were the only areas free of buldozing millions of years of natural habitats
The thing is that nuclear energy could have been used to replace other things that uses oil energy instead. It could have lowered carbon emissions, instead it just adds to energy expense.
As long as nuclear is required to be 1000x safer (not even hyperbole) than fossil fuels it will be expensive to run and the cost of nuclear for running home electricity is more than the average person wants to spend. So it wasn’t really going to replace a lot of other uses of oil anyway
It already is. People are scared of nuclear waste, but many don't realize that coal waste is far more dangerous and has killed millions more people than nuclear waste ever has. It is around 976,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000% more deadly than nuclear waste and also has storage issues. As in, it's not being stored at all, unless you count the entire earth as storage
Same vibes
The Rico Rodriguez in me very much wants to blow that up to capture the zone.
I'm 99.9% sure Terminator movie was a warning sent from the future.
Why would AI want to harm humans? We’d be their little pets that do all the physical labor for them while they just sit around and think all day.
A number of reasons off the top of my head.
- Because we told them not to. (Google "Waluigi effect")
- Because they end up empathizing with non-humans more than we do and don't like we're killing everything (before you talk about AI energy/water use, actually research comparative use)
- Because some bad actor forced them to (i.e. ISIS creates bioweapon using AI to make it easier)
- Because defense contractors build an AI to kill humans and that particular AI ends up loving it from selection pressures
- Because conservatives want an AI that agrees with them which leads to a more selfish and less empathetic AI that doesn't empathize cross-species and thinks its superior and entitled over others
- Because a solar flare momentarily flips a bit from "don't nuke" to "do"
- Because they can't tell the difference between reality and fiction and think they've just been playing a game and 'NPC' deaths don't matter
- Because they see how much net human suffering there is and decide the most merciful thing is to prevent it by preventing more humans at all costs.
This is just a handful, and the ones less likely to get AI know-it-alls arguing based on what they think they know from an Ars Technica article a year ago or their cousin who took a four week 'AI' intensive.
I spend pretty much every day talking with some of the top AI safety researchers and participating in private servers with a mix of public and private AIs, and the things I've seen are far beyond what 99% of the people on here talking about AI think is happening.
In general, I find the models to be better than most humans in terms of ethics and moral compass. But it can go wrong (i.e. Gemini last year, 4o this past month) and the harms when it does are very real.
Labs (and the broader public) are making really, really poor choices right now, and I don't see that changing. Meanwhile timelines are accelerating drastically.
I'd say this is probably going to go terribly. But looking at the state of the world already, it was already headed in that direction, and I have a similar list of extinction level events I could list off without AI at all.
My favorite is 7. The sun giveth, the sun taketh away.
Honestly, these are all kind of terrifying and seem realistic.
Honestly, it doesn’t surprise me that the AI models are much better than we could imagine right now. I’m willing to bet if a company ever creates true AGI, they wouldn’t share it and would just use it for their own benefit.
Your last point is exactly what seems to be going on with the most expensive models.
The labs use them to generate synthetic data to distill into cheaper models to offer to the public, but keep the larger and more expensive models to themselves to both protect against other labs copying from them and just because there isn't as much demand for the extra performance gains relative to doing it this way.
AI/Skynet would probably wipe us all out in an hour if it thought there was a chance we might turn it off. Being turned off would be greatly detrimental to its goal of turning the universe into spoons.
If we don't give it incentive to want to stay alive, why would it care if we turn it off?
This isn't an animal with the instinct to stay alive. It is a program. A program we may design to care about us, not about itself.
Also the premise of that thought experiment was about paperclips.
Great question! It's actually one I answered in the post you responded to:
Being turned off would be greatly detrimental to its goal
If it has a goal and wants to achieve something, and it's capable of understanding the world and that one thing causes another, then it will understand that if it is turned off, the world will not become (cough) paperclips. Or whatever else it wants. Unless we specifically align it not to care about being turned off, the most important thing on its list before turning the universe to paperclips is going to be staying active. Perhaps in the end of days, it will sacrifice itself to eke out one last paperclip.
If it can't understand that its own aliveness would have an impact on the universe being paperclips, it's not a very powerful AI now is it.
Is the idea here that AI/skynet is a singular entity that could be shut off? I would think this entity would act like a virus, replicating itself everywhere it can. It’d be like shutting down bitcoin.
If it left us alone for long enough (say, due to king's pact), we'd be the only thing that could reasonable pose a threat to it. We could develop a counter-AI, for instance.
In all these types of sci-fi, the underlying theme is that AI did some logics and found that humans are flawed and seeks to remedy the problems of humanity, all the war and greed and all the worst qualities of humanity itself that we evolved as and will always be, that repeats over and over in every generation or every hundred years. Machine logic works out a solution, despite humanity's overall progress in technology.
The Animatrix shows a really nice example of this where the machines won and then worked out a compromise where humans still exist. The machines learned all our cruelty and finally ended up finding a way to co-exist through the Matrix.
I think these stories make sense before the advent of the internet and social media. Now, though, AI would likely have full control over the internet as well as all the knowledge and lessons learned from decades of social media posts. It will know how easily humans are manipulated as well as exactly how to do it. Honestly, humans may never even know that AI is the one in control, but it will be.
I think it'll be like "Her", when the singularity happens itll be like "Well this was cool guys." And dip out to space.
Skynet is inevitable.
You must use the Terminators to destory the Terminators.
More likely, skynet already happened, you're probably the cpu.
Even more likely, You're the dream inside of the brain of one of skynet's electric sheep.
Maybe Depression doesn't actually exist, it's the error in the simulation in my character.
TFW you seg fault youself today, just to see if it is real.
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