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I'm not sure why anyone expected a new facelift would improve sales. It's clear the overall decline is associated with Musk going full mask-off fascist, given this, driving around in a car that looks unlike any previous Model Y just makes it completely obvious that you knew this and decided to buy one anyway. If they want to bolster sales, maybe they should have kept producing the pre-facelifted versions for a while.

Full disclosure, I used to own a Model 3. I had it for 5 years and was generally very happy with it - it was a great daily driver, cost very little to run and maintain, and (aside from a few issues later in my ownership, which was one of the reasons I decided to sell it) in general it was very easy to live with.

There are clearly some very skilled engineers at Tesla who know how to build a great product. It is a shame their efforts are being undermined by a fascist lunatic with a narcissist complex.

"But the low sales numbers were just potential buyers delaying their purchase, because the new Model Y will release soon."

Safe to say that we finally have evidence that people weren't delaying. It's also not the car either, the car is fine and very competitive. I drive a Model 3 and I drove a couple competitor cars, therefore I know Tesla is up there with the competition. That is Volkswagen, Toyota and the large volume brands, I don't view Tesla as a luxury brand like BMW and Mercedes though.

So what else is there? I'd wager having a Nazi as CEO doesn't help sales at all. I'm in a mid class bubble in The Netherlands where many in my bubble can afford or even actively looked at purchasing a Tesla, all of them say the same thing: I do not support Nazi's and by extension try to buy as little US made products as I can. This is the same customer base that 5 years ago would definitely have bought a Tesla in a heartbeat. Tesla will continue to lose with Musk at the helm.

If you gave me a Model Y for free, I'd take it to the junkyard and have it crushed, just to make sure no one drives that shit.

I'm constantly floored that institutional investors are keeping the TSLA stock price from cratering. They dont think of the pressures on the brand like we do. I think they are pricing in future patronage by trump.

Don't live in the US, but you'd probably have to pay me to be seen driving one of those. I can afford not to and dignity has a price

$3k, $5k, $20k. What's democracy mean to you?

I say let's make him the next Juliani.

No thanks Leon Hitler, you can shove your vehicles where the sun does not shine. I will stick with my Leaf and it will not burn down my garage.

Just seeing a Tesla reminds me of the arrogance of musk saying he "deleted" jobs. The choice of words tells you what he thinks of us.

Eff him. Never again.

Lol