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Your TV Is Spying On You (www.ludlowinstitute.org)
submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

You sit down to relax, put on your favorite show, and settle in for a night of binge-watching. But while you’re watching your TV… your TV is watching you.

Smart TVs take constant snapshots of everything you watch. Sometimes hundreds of snapshots a second.

Welcome to the future of "entertainment."

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago (9 children)

No, it's not. It has not connected to the internet.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (6 children)

What 4K TV can I buy that doesn’t do this guys help? Or should I stick to monitors???

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sceptre still makes TVs that are just that, no underlying smart OS

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

I got xiaomi, opened it up and disconnected the Bluetooth / wifi card. Connect it to a linux device and now it is a shitter version of a dumb tv. It's crazy how smart tvs really really suck at being dumb. But it does work once you get used to some annoying quirks.

Tip: connect a cheap air mouse/keyboard to it as a remote

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I mean... Just don't hook the TV up to the internet. Don't join your WiFi network on the TV.

Kind of a simple solution.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You can't activate the warranty without it. Then once it knows it can go online it will constantly harass you.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"You can’t activate the warranty without it" That's illegal in most of the world

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

No it’s not! I had a goddamn Sony tv and it wouldn’t let me change certain settings unless I connected it to the internet! They try to force your hand!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Until the cost of a sim card w/service is less than the revenue they generate from it. Which I fear is scarily close.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Does anyone know if there's a domain blocklist for smart TV telemetry? If so, I could easily put it into my DNS server, like I already do for ads.

I'd like to continue using my streaming apps without resorting to yet another device. I have an HTPC that runs KODI but I think it'd be a pain to replace all of my streaming apps.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

Turn the TV on and keep an eye on the logs. Many of the common blocklist already block that kind of telemetry.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

My TV is not a smart TV, it's not spying on me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How old is it ? Which one did you buy

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Well, maybe a Hisense or a cheap soundbar might have a listening device, but they'll be hard pressed to phone home.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I’ve never allowed my TV to have an active route to the internet since I bought it in 2019, it’s exclusively fed over HDMI by gaming consoles and an Apple TV.

The thing is, HDMI 1.4 added HEC, so what’s to prevent media players from serving as an Ethernet switch and providing an internet connection to TVs.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago

Apple TV is watching you 😁

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

HEC feature enables IP-based applications over HDMI and provides a bidirectional Ethernet communication at 100 Mbit/s

I think the bandwidth is too slow for HD/4K Streams.

I am sure the 100 Mbit/s must also be theoretical maximum, i would be impressed if practical cables supports even half the orignal specs

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

for streaming, yeah, for tracking its plenty

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

for streaming, yeah, for tracking its plenty

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Stupid TVs FTW. If you can’t buy them stupid, give them a WiFi lobotomy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

There has to be a youtube guide to giving WiFi Lobotomy

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago

no it isn't. yours might be, but not mine.

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