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White House proposes giving out $5,000 checks to address falling birthrates amid growing ‘pronatalist’ movement

One of Donald Trump’s priorities for his second term is getting Americans to have more babies – and the White House has a new proposal to encourage them to do so: a $5,000 “baby bonus”.

The plan to give cash payments to mothers after delivery shows the growing influence of the “pronatalist” movement in the US, which, citing falling US birthrates, calls for “traditional” family values and for women – particularly white women – to have more children.

But experts say $5,000 checks won’t lead to a baby boom. Between unaffordable health care, soaring housing costs, inaccessible childcare and a lack of federal parental leave mandates, Americans face a swath of expensive hurdles that disincentivize them from having large families – or families at all – and that will require a much larger government investment to overcome.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hilarious that the only concept he can come up with is UNDER paying for things he wants hahahahaha

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At least offer free healthcare and child birth, that’s $30,000 out of pocket if you’re middle class.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Youre not gonna get the eugenics you want with this. The most likely audience is people with short-sighted need for cash, aka the working poor.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This cuts out the middle. This is what they want. You need a poor desperate sick and uneducated underclass to serve the super rich. You don't want anyone new in the club.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Kind of hard to promote getting pregnant when they are actively trying to take away abortion rights! That's like asking someone to walk a tight rope, but then take away the safety net.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

They're coming for contraceptives next, then it'll be easy to get pregnant

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

No amount of money will convince a meaningful amount of people to have kids if they can't reasonably believe their children will have a good life. Climate disasters, pollution, financial struggle, no access to property, crushing work life, unemployment, racism, unfair public policies, regressing social rights. All of these have to be addressed seriously before you can even start dreaming about reaching replacement birth rate. Fascist governments will go for an easier solution: enslave women.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is $5000 gonna resurrect my wife if my shit ass state policies force her to continue a dangerous pregnancy and she dies prior to giving birth? Also, fuck you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

It would be gods plan for her do die because she is not worthy /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Just what we need... more boomers on the way

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I was told this was communism. And that this is bad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

There's already an annual child tax credit: https://taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/what-child-tax-credit

I'm sure they didn't even check if birth rates are influenced by this...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It really makes no sense of why they want to increase the population.. when close to 5% are unemployed, as more people is ready to work soon.

The only thing I can think of is they’re trying to sink the usd more, make it a country like China that is like manufacturing, and many Americans lost a huge chunk of salary (like what happened during the Great Depression).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

What you're missing is that, in ~10-12 years or so, those babies will have grown into a massive labor demographic. I wish this was hyperbole.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

It’s like they have in charge some nerd who’s only experience with planning and development is 4X games.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

There's not enough white babies for them. You're looking for financial logic when it's closer to white supremacy being out-birthed.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

anyone else think this shit is fucking weird?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

It’s an incel mindset.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

It makes more sense when you realize that money has solved all of Donald Trump's problems in the past. Get a little too handsy with a woman? Pay her off to keep quiet. Have a business partnership or contract you want to get out of? Pay lawyers to harass them in court until they give up.

Heck, he doesn't even need to use his own money most of the time, he can spend out of one of his companies like it's a slush fund then declare bankruptcy, leaving business partners and banks with the bills.

He is now running the government like one of his privately owned companies, and using our money to try and solve his problems. Give them a pittance to go away, and when they don't, you can say "we gave them a chance" before kidnapping them.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lmaooo no shit it won't work. Daycare alone is $20-$40k a year. A pittance one-time payment doesn't change the fundamental calculus of how fucking expensive everything is now

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