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You know, like McDowells. I don't actually care what color my shells are. There are principals involved. Principalities!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Bought it for €40

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If I'm not mistaken, a large component of Nintendo's power comes from Japanese copyright laws being far more pro-copyright holder and Nintendo uses it to its full potential. In Japan, this sometimes results in prison sentences and often big fines. it's also applied outside the country against a consortium of universal copyright recognizing countries and so it can affect you regardless of your location although I forget how exactly.

To @[email protected] 's point, perhaps it is the weak qualifications for Japanese patents which have allowed Nintendo to bully everyone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I actually always really enjoyed supertuxkart but I've never actually played much of mariokart so idk how well they actually compare.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled: A remaster of the classic

PlayStation kart racer, featuring Crash Bandicoot and his friends.

Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed: Characters from SEGA franchises race in vehicles that transform into boats and planes.

Diddy Kong Racing: Race with Diddy Kong and his friends in karts, planes and hovercraft.

Team Sonic Racing: A kart racer where you work together in teams, using team moves and ultimate abilities.

Nickelodeon Kart Racers Series: Features characters from various Nickelodeon shows.

Disney Speedstorm: A kart racer featuring characters from Disney and Pixar franchises.

KartRider: Drift: A free-to-play kart racer with a focus on drifting.

Lego Racers: Build and race Lego vehicles on various tracks.

Garfield Kart Furious Racing: Race as Garfield and his friends on themed tracks.

Konami Krazy Racers: Race as characters from Konami's popular franchises.

Blur: Combines arcade racing with vehicular combat and power-ups.

ModNation Racers: Features track creation and customization.

LittleBigPlanet Karting: Brings the creativity of LittleBigPlanet into a kart racing experience.

F1 Race Stars: A more arcade-style take on Formula 1 racing.

SuperTuxKart: An open-source kart racing game.

Starlit Kart Racing: A free-to-play kart racer with a variety of game modes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Out of curiosity: did you partly use AI to make this list? Some of the short descriptions read very oddly for a forum post, e.g. the "various tracks" part on Lego Racers.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Crash Team Racing PS1 was IMHO better than Mario Kart N64. The wumpa fruit added a neat dimension, and the ability to select weapons for battle mode was great.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You have the best list here, but you forgot Wipeout series. Futuristic racing with weapons, set to electronic music.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Konami Krazy Racers

I wonder why they didn't got for something like "Konami Krazy Karting"

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Not quite a clone, but Crash Tag Team Racing was a staple of my childhood

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

There's a third Sonic racing game called Sonic and SEGA All Stars Racing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Party animals has an almost 1:1 in terms of gameplay ripoff of Mario kart

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Make sure you put two line breaks between every new line. Otherwise it kinda comes out as a blob. You can also use a dash and a space before each entry to get a bullet point.


Played a copy of Crash Team Racing a bit ago. Had a real good time with it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I was going to buy a switch 2 (or attempt to), but at that cost… hell no. Not without dinner first.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

If you haven't tried modded Mario Kart Wii before, you're missing out.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed is oddly slept on. Great kart racer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

If you really must play Mario Kart just play 9 on switch, or WiiU

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

If you wanted to make a Mario Kart clone, copyright is easy enough to avoid. Nearly every other second-rate dev studio has managed to make a half-baked Mario Kart ripoff for whatever Nick Jr show they got the licensing to, so that part's simple.

The real issue is navigating the patent minefield that Nintendo has laid out.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

A low enough amount that Warframe has a mario Kart esque minigame available in game

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Break out DOSBox and fire up Wacky Wheels from Apogee

...... Not particularly more recently there was a Crash Team Racing remake

Honestly coming up blank for anything else recentish in that genre

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Wacky wheels was my jam

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

Edit: Some salty commenters here. This isn’t my graph, just one I grabbed. Notes aren’t mine.

I’m a huge proponent for inflation adjusted livable minimum wage- which should be close to $30 an hour these days. Also hugely worried about our housing cost trends.

I’m only pointing out that expecting games to cost 40-60 for life is a little silly- yall still paying $.10 for a loaf of bread? I remember when games inched from $40 to $60 and everyone lost their minds- no one complains about it anymore. Don’t wanna pay retail? Wait for sales, bundles, used copies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This doesn’t mean anything. Something only has as much value as the customer is willing to pay. People don’t want to pay more than $60 for most new games being released today and companies need to accept that.

Fuck what it cost years ago.

Same goes for everything else. You could make the same argument for cars and trucks which are now reaching $50k USD for base features. Still doesn’t matter. Still overpriced.

Let’s talk about what we’ve lost too. Games used to come as a complete edition. Now you get the game and it’s unplayable on the first day without an update and even then still has features broke, waiting for an update weeks or months later. Not to mention DLC.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Games are also much easier to distribute now than they ever where, saving cost.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t see Diddy Kong Racing on there which is really the only one you need anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Diddy Kong Racing is the GOAT

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

But isn’t it easier if I just ignore the nuance of economics and just place all the blame for my unhappiness on corporate greed?

I think it’d also be interesting to see the total production cost of each Mario Kart, and a total sales/revenue generated by each game.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Edit: these notes have been addressed in OP's post

Note: Salary growth has outpaced inflation.

You know what else has outpaced inflation? The cost of living. Purchasing power for middle and lower class people is far less than what it used to be. "Inflation" doesn't account for that.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

this argument is so fucking dumb

Volume of video game sales has changed monstrously over the years as it moved from a niche hobby to mainstream

SNES Mario kart - 8.76 million copies sold worldwide Switch Mario kart 8 - 67.34 million copies sold world wide.

SNES mario kart (inflation adjusted) earnings - 1,095,000,000 Switch Mario kart earnings - 5,252,520,000

Game dev budgets have obviously exploded in that time and nintendo doesn’t disclose their budgets but on average its estimated snes titles got about 1-2 million and switch/wii u titles got 30ish million. That’s a sizable increase in development that wildly outpaces inflation, for sure, but their earnings obviously did too.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Okay, but now do housing and groceries and you'll see why people don't have extra money laying around for another Nintendo and its Mario kart.

Economics is significantly more complicated than a bar graph of inflation-adjusted video game price tags lol. Hell, even just value of each game in their respective release time period is more complicated than that. I doubt there's anything unique to this new game (other racing games have done the open world thing several times starting like 15 years ago), but the kart racer genre itself was new back in the 90s.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Also, Sonic Robo Blast 2 Kart

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Or the sequel, Doctor Robotnik's Ring Racers

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