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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago

I always thought the Israeli would destroy the US is some fashion

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

What goods or services does Israel provide that we're "boycotting "

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

First you get people comfortable with defending genocide in another country, then they won't be so resistant when you start doing it in your own country.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

They were russian astroturfs

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

How do you outlaw a boycott? It's not an act, it's a non-act. An absence of a purchase. How do you distinguish boycott from just not buying something you don't want or need like any other item. Are we going to be required to put so much of our purchases toward Isreal now?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

Not just show your papers, show your recent Israel approved consumer good purchases!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 17 hours ago

Wrong think will be punished

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Hopefully someone makes a list of brands and companies that you aren't allowed to boycot according to usa republicans and then publishes that list online on a user friendly website. After all, without that information, people might be unknowingly breaking the law when they start a personal boycot.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 19 hours ago

Oh you didn't buy a Soda Stream?
Believe it or not, straight to jail!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry guys, this will surely create blowback next election and a liberal can be back in charge

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

No no. The "liberal" won't be liberal enough. Gotta wait for the right type of liberal before we vote against Nazi.

/sarcasm

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

It really is too early to be gritting my teeth man.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Maybe if they're alpha and lose their woke reputation they won't need those crazies who are demanding them to do something 'meaningful'

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 19 hours ago

Fuck this shit, this is intentionally vague to be used as a cudgel

[–] [email protected] 22 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

How to hack your GDP while ordinary people suffer

  1. Private weapons manufacturers make more weapons than should ever be needed.

Why? Your country gained its wealth by becoming the world's largest weapons manufacturer, making it the greatest financial beneficiary of WW2. That manufacturing infrastructure didn't just disappear overnight.

  1. Large government subsidies to countries like Israel which aren't actually cash, rather they are purchases of these privately manufactured weapons using taxpayer dollars. These are given to Israel and other countries / entities in the world which perpetuate military conflict in order to keep feeding the machine.

There you have it. Production and consumption which keeps your GDP and GDP per capita growing without providing a meaningful benefit to humanity.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

Lets wait and see what percentage of democrats will vote yes

[–] [email protected] 18 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

The courts won't enforce this right, because of freedom of speech, right?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Freedom of what? Sounds like something communist to me /s

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Freedom of what?

😆 I dunno why I thought this was so funny lmao.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

My brain immediately saw the meme of the the blond woman "inquiring intensifies" Edit: Like this!

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

How will they enforce it? Does the government send out Israeli products by mail to Americans and then arrest whomever refuses to pay for the products they didn't ask for? Ordering people to buy specific products can't be even remotely legal. Buy Tesla cars or go to jail, is what this amounts to.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Here is the bill (it's like two pages)

I'm not a lawyer so I could be reading this wrong but this law doesn't apply directly to citizens, per se.

The law that it modifies basically makes it illegal for a company to contractually require you to boycott another company that you disagree with, but one that is allied toward the US.

For example, imagine you're the CEO of ACME and you want to do business with Aperture Science, Inc. Aperture can't, as a condition of you doing business with them, restrict you from working with Israeli companies.

That all being said, I do not trust this administration will use the law for it's intended purpose and will instead use it as a club to beat people with.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 18 hours ago

This is a cudgel to use against leftist activists when they are identified through social media skimming and illegal surveillance. The charge of antisemitic activity will be constructed parallel to their desire to brutalize them.

And they all get a stack of AIPAC cash to implement this too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

I guess raising awareness of products origin and why one should boycott becomes the issue.

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

5 Democrats are cosponsors:

  • Josh Gottheimer - NJ-5
  • Jared Moskowitz - FLA-23
  • Joseph Morrell - NY-25
  • Donald Davis - NC-1
  • Laura Gillen - NY-4

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/867/all-info

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Are they considered Isreali products🤔

[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago

Yes. You will be required by law to purchase Josh Gottheimer.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Dear lord. Why are Dems getting involved in pushing fascism?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago

Wer hat uns verraten…? Sozialdemokraten…

[–] [email protected] 61 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There have always been liberal collaborators to fascism, this isn't new.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 20 hours ago

they dont care about the fascism aspect, they care that it guarantees them their seats, just like %90 of all the politicians.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

When Israel started full scale genocide in Gaza, Biden started giving them more money for weapons. Genocide and fascism are the Democratic party platform now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The American government platform. Don't try to single out the Dems for this.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago

I think it's common knowledge, at this point, that the GOP has been fascist for at least 50 years. Not singling out, pointing out for those still clinging to the idea Dems are on our side.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 71 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

How is this to enforced. Is there to be a Israeli mandated amount of product that you would need to buy.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 21 hours ago

You will be expected to wear your Israeli pager at all times

[–] [email protected] 27 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

"Please drink a verification can"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago

Omg!! This is how we get there, isnt it?! 😳

[–] [email protected] 50 points 22 hours ago

Vague laws can be abused easier.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 23 hours ago

Well, if that isn't freedom of speech, I don't know what is. So much freedom, it oozes oil.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This is brilliant, you could have the gestasi inspecting everyone at the checkouts at a supermarket, and if you don't buy a Sodastream cartridge, you get disappeared.

(Sodastream is an Israeli company, and used to manufacture their machines in an industrial park in an Israeli settlement on the West Bank)

[–] [email protected] 35 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Sodastream is an Israeli company

I didn't know that. Good thing I've been boycotting their cylinders for years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Well fuck, I just got one, I just assumed they were a german company since they're so popular there

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

Get a nice bar-sized cylinder of CO2 (sometimes called beer gas) and a 15 dollar adapter. Get you that (nearly) guilt-free bubbly water by never sending them a cent for gas!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

Same. But I switched to a (German) service that mails cylinders. https://sodabaer.de/

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

I got an Aarke instead because I liked the design, so now I just need to replace my current sodastream cartridge with an offbrand one...

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