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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

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Kyle Butcavage Jr, @KyleButcavage

COVID has ruined sci-fi movies shit'll be like, "the year was 3004 and aliens were gonna blow up the sun" and I'm like, "makes sense" but then it goes to "so the world United to..." and I'm like "No the fuck they did not."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Expeditionary forces is a comedy science fiction in which the nations of the world reluctantly worked together, but only some of the nations, and they're far from friends.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Its good for Science Fiction can be aspirational sometimes though.

Classic Star Trek has humans living in an idealistic society meeting some weirdo aliens doing some weirdo alien shit that causes a lot of problems. Then you realize we're more like the aliens than the we are like the idealistic future human society. Our society is alien to to an ideal society.

Then the Enterprise warps off to some other place to do some cool shit somewhere else and the aliens are stuck on their shitty planet because they're a bunch of losers what can't get past their weirdo shit.

The implication is that we could be the cool dudes in a starship constantly doing awesome shit. But instead we're the losers stuck on a planet that the people in the starships laugh at.

So the reason why an ideal future isn't possible is because we can't get past our weirdo loser ideas.

I can now picture Kirk, Spock and Bones having a chuckle about some weirdo aliens that can't advance because they're stuck in the rut of doomerism.

"It's quite illogical that they can't understand they can never achieve anything if they presume failure before they even try."

"Humanity once thought that way a long time ago but we eventually got past it. Anyway, off we go somewhere else to see some other loser aliens doing stupid shit we used to do!"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So the reason why an ideal future isn’t possible is because we can’t get past our weirdo loser ideas.

I can now picture Kirk, Spock and Bones having a chuckle about some weirdo aliens that can’t advance because they’re stuck in the rut of doomerism.

Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek, was indeed a closet communist who infused his political beliefs into the show. The concept of a peaceful, egalitarian society united under one government, where resources were shared and everyone worked for the betterment of all - this is essentially a communist ideal. In fact, the characters themselves embody different facets of Marxist theory. For instance, Captain Kirk represents the proletariat fighting against oppression while Mr. Spock embodies the need for logic and rational decision-making.

Star Trek's vision of the future was meant to inspire hope and demonstrate what humanity could achieve when freed from the constraints of class and economic systems. In many ways, the show serves as a subtle form of communist propaganda. As you mentioned, each episode often portrayed humans as progressing towards an idealistic future, while the aliens faced various challenges due to their clinging to old ideologies and social structures. This reflects Roddenberry's belief that to truly advance, societies must shed outdated and divisive ideas.

By presenting a world where these barriers are overcome, Star Trek encourages viewers to question their own societal norms and consider how they might work together in a more just and cooperative manner. Although the series was never overtly political, its underlying message clearly illustrates Roddenberry's support for communism, making it a unique piece of entertainment that not only entertains but also educates its audience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek, was indeed a closet communist

Citation needed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Username checks out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Quite a take on it!

Meanwhile, homo sapien are effectively half fighting chimp, half sexy loving bonobo.

We get to choose our own path.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Half sexy? I'm offended! I'm 100% sexy bonobo!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is nearly a century of Nebula Award winning science fiction that is in the public domain. Hollywood can't say, "they're out of ideas" All they need are screenwriters who aren't idiots.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Or maybe pay the screenwriters to do more than a first draft?

I also used to wonder why writing in TV shows and movies got so bad in the last decade. A lot of things feel like it's just a first draft level of quality. Some information came out last year that indicated that they were indeed filming things off of a first draft. Because the studios didn't want to pay writers beyond making a first draft.

Hopefully that issue has been resolved. Hooray for unions!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You are looking for c/HFY and r/HFY.

But I agree, except for the West pretty much every banana republic tries to isolate itself so their dictators can easier rob their subjects riches.

I summed it up in the Short Story Hard WEST

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

One of the iffey feelings I have reading three-body series, even though it's a pretty dark series that also highlight the dark side of humanity, is that the world superpowers were somewhat effecticely cooperative. May be if Liu Cixin wrote the book around Covid, it might be quite different.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I happen to really like District 9 for this reason

There's no malicious plot of aliens blowing up shit or invading to colonize: nope, aliens literally just crash-landed on accident and humanity was like "stay the fuck right there, we'll take all your shit until we figure out how to ~~deal with~~ exploit you"

Humanity is always its own worst-enemy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Also, the future of Elysium (also Bloomkamp) looks more and more likely, with the 1 percent fucking off to a luxury space station in orbit and the rest of humanity living in poverty on the destroyed Earth.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Another interesting thing about Elysium is how the AI is programmed to only recognize rich people as humans. Just like rich people think about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I am still hoping for a Halo like future, with civil war in space, war against aliens, the threat of a dark and ancient threat and all of that. Or maybe just a Stellaris future with the same but more megastructures

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