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How IT People See Each Other (tesseract.dubvee.org)
submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Not OC: Just found this on my old hard drive while grabbing some other stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

As a sysadmin, the sysadmin parts are 100% true

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

the illustration of the devs with 500 years of xp was missing hahaha

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I kinda want an "End Users" one, too (already know what their "Sysadmins" would be).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Where's my network admins at?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Comprehended under sysadmin because the attitude is the same just the devices are a bit different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I prefer that when done properly a network admin is simply forgotten about.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago (14 children)

I feel like this one really deserves to be in there

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

That's just how everyone sees the client

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

How I see the DBAs

[–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago (2 children)

this is how i see other sysadmins when they explain their 30yr old bash script that does everything.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Hey, that's completely unfair!

It's only 10 years old.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

LOL. I'm assuming that would be how everyone but the project managers see project managers?

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I sense a theme, when it comes to the sysadmins.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Having been a sysadmin you would be surprised at both the amount of times I had to explain why we couldn't just put an unprotected endpoint outside the firewall and also how much alcohol I drank to cope with the former.

It is like being builder to architects that think you can have a second story just floating in midair. I am baffled by how ignorant of the basics of infrastructure many developers are.

Obviously I don't expect a website dev to know the details of like iptables configs for load balancing with failover or whatever. Or even be terribly familiar with how to set up a production web server. I do expect people to know stuff like every computer on the internet is under constant attack from scripts. Or that taking advantage of peoples' trust and leaking their data is bad actually.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

One might note they also have the highest average income

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

As a developer, the baby is how I see developers, too.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Is "IT" a general term for tech workers in some places? I keep seeing people refer to it as such, but where I am, it is a term which primarily describes networking and infrastructure professionals.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Network engineering is kind of in the middle where you take the skill set of help desk and office management. This often leads to help desk and software development both falling under the organization in information technology. Application support also often falls under this category.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

IT stands for Information Technology. Relevant Wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_technology

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yes, that is consistent with my understanding - networking and infrastructure. Engineering and management is generally not considered IT where I am unless they are directly supporting networking and infrastructure. But someone writing code for a game or app wouldn't be IT.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Software devs and designers usually fall under IT is my understanding but I can see why many people/places would make the distinction. Especially for companies that only write software, their IT would more be the infrastructure, but if they're only writing software for in house use that's more on the IT side. I could be completely wrong about this too, just how I saw them grouped.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The wiki link states software to be included in the definition. Management is not IT of course, but as there exists management in IT is used in the image I'd guess.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Right, there is definitely a software side of IT, but not all software is IT adjacent. IT software is really a very small field these days, compared to software in general.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Yeah, it's a generic term here that encompasses most tech jobs

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