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Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?
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No, have you?
She was bad ass
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I wrote an article about how Jim Carrey used greenface (very offensively too) during the filming of "The Mask", but hardly anyone cared.
He's not even an amphibian!
I think shes got a company now that is making extra comfy bras.
I see from the comments that apparently it was makeup. I wonder to what extent this is makeup, since after all, ALL actors on set wear make up. I have a similar skin complexion and if I sunbathe for a week I'll look like Vasquez too.
Well, to be fair, blackface is also a type of makeup
If an actor loses weight or works out to be more muscular, that's commitment to their craft.
If they lay out in the sun, that's cheating!
[jk]
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I think the groundbreaking part was Dan O'Bannonβs note in the Alien script that gave us more amazing characters in Aliens.
βAt the start of Dan O'Bannonβs script for Alien, thereβs a note that few other screenplays contain: βThe crew is unisex and all parts are interchangeable for men or women.β Itβs a line that fundamentally altered the nature of the film, affecting everything from the presentation of its characters to the way Ridley Scott and his team approached casting, and it was certainly for the best.β
Haha I read that originally as "they be robots and have removable arms and legs that fit erybody else."
That's fascinating though. I must say I like Aliens much better. I rarely revisit Alien but I might do in the near future.
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Im pretty sure thats just a tan, but its interesting that her imdb page says "Jenette Goldstein is a true chameleon"
The β80s was just like that. Fun while it lasted but I am glad we have moved on and it is somewhat shameful to look back on now. I have so much nostalgia for the Short Circuit movies but I will never show them to my Indian husband, Fischer Stevens.
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She's also in Titanic, but in a very small role as an Irish mother.
And Lethal Weapon
Just curious, is it offense that she dyed her hair reddish and has Hollywood freckles for the Irish role?
Irish. Trying to muster one fuck to give but just can't manage it unfortunately.
Side note: She's a great actress.
Bit weird. Irish people tend to have dark hair and pale skin.
The Irish don't care, they're too busy secretly taking over the world.
Good thing god created alcohol to slow them down.
Hasn't worked, those bastards are everywhere!
It wouldn't surprise me if we finally make contact with that uncontacted tribe off the coast of India and there was already a bunch of Irish dudes chilling out with them already.
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Was it makeup? Lighting can do a lot tooβ¦
It was, even though apparently one of her parents is of Brazilian and Moroccan descent.
This is mildly racist in two different directions. There was clearly an assumption of what a "private Vasquez" should look like they were shooting for. She was allegedly cast partially because she was in the right shape for the character already. These days they would have gotten an actor in shape that looked like the ethnic stereotype they had in mind, probably.
Which is still kinda more messed up than just having cast her, kept the character and just not spray tan her. Didn't even have to change her name. I don't speak for American latinos, but from where I stand the visual design of the character seems like a much bigger issue than the casting.
A lot of ppl were saying if you need a disabled role, hire a disabled person, if you need this and that hire someone with that exact trait. That's not the point of acting. The point of a good actor is that they can change for every role.
okay but another point of acting is authentically bringing the experience of the character portrayed so that the audience can empathize with that character, so stuffing someone without that lived experience into the role deceives the audience into thinking that they're empathizing with people like that character when they're actually just getting what the actor thinks it's like instead
You just described acting.
IMO, it's all good if their pick isn't just who ever is the hot item that year, and if the pick actually does a good job.
Small correction: she was John Connor's foster mother in Terminator 2 not step mother
It might not seem like it now but Vasquez was a groundbreaking character at the time.
Expand on that
Have you seen the movie?
(Edit: apparently not.)
Aliens didn't exactly break new ground in strong female characters (except perhaps with Ripley as lead), but it was an early very popular movie that had strong female characters who weren't dependent upon men to save them so it was pretty good for representing women as something other than Hollywood's standard of the time. Not great mind you because the only way either of them managed to achieve that is by making both of them (especially Vasquez, Ripley at least had some nuance) act like traditional male characters, but it was a big step.
Badass strong female character with more depth than what was normally portrayed in Hollywood. Ripley being another.
Ripley and Vasquez are antithetical. Vasquez's strength comes from enbracing masculinity. She's in a traditionally male profession, she's stereotypically, "butch," (short hair, muscular, etc.), she's aggressive, and she belittles Ripley with her male peers. The film even calls attention to this early on ("Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?"..."No. Have you?"). Meanwhile, Ripley is similarly a strong woman, but she doesn't need to reject femininity to show strength. She weeps when she learns that her daughter died and later develops a maternal connection with Newt, but she's more than capable of picking up a gun and giving orders when needed. She's also in a traditionally male profession (which she demonstrates when she uses the power loader), but she doesn't let that define her. She never seeks the approval of the male characters or behaves like them to achieve her goals.
I've heard it argued that Vasquez is a sort of queer coded sheild for Ripley, allowing audiences to enjoy Ripley as a strong female character without worrying about her sexuality ("No, Ripley's not a lesbian; that's a lesbian."), but I don't think that's fair to either character. Vasquez is a heroic character in her own right, not wanting abandon teammates and ultimately sacrificing herself so that others can escape. But the film is about motherhood, and Vasquez, just like all the other marines, isn't capable of maternal behavior. I think in the end, Vasquez's character is meant to demonstrate that Ripley is a bad-ass because of her femininity, not in spite of it.
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Badass female grunt soldier treated by her fellow soldiers as a soldier first and foremost.
Michelle Rodriguez wouldn't have a career without this woman
She has the most iconic line from my youth.
Some soldier, saying to Vasquez who's doing pull-ups: hey Vasquez, you ever been mistaken for a man To which she replies: no, have you?
Also the way
she
dies is bad ass.
I mean next to Ripley, the android and the little girl, she's the most memorable character in that movie.
"You always were an asshole, Gorman."
She has the most iconic line from my youth.
I got gifted a 4K Blu-ray player for Christmas. Immediately bought Aliens (my favourite movie of all time) then sat down with my older kids to watch it with popcorn etc.
There was such a buzz in the room when she delivered that line.
Have to recommend the 4K Blu-ray experience if you're a fan. The detail honestly shocked me.
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I mean next to Ripley, the android and the little girl, she's the most memorable character in that movie.
The casting is great.
I think Paul Riser did a great job as the slimy company man Burke. He was very believable.
Michael Bien was great as ~~Hudson~~ Hicks too. The exchange between himself, Ripley and Burke about nuking the site was great.
My friends think I'm crazy that I still buy blu-rays sometimes (including 4k), but for some movies, on an OLED screen... it's just next level.
The new Dune films, for example...
I honestly have been blown away by how cinematic the 4K Blu-ray experience is. The new Dune ones are on the list to get. I'd say they're great. Lord of the rings too.
I'm up to 7 in my collection now and definitely will be continuing to add to it.
No OLED here yet but next TV I will definitely pony up the extra for it.
No OLED here yet but next TV I will definitely pony up the extra for it.
Do it... I might even say that I'd rather watch a regular blu-ray on OLED, than a 4k on LCD... but that might be a stretch. Once you get OLED though, it's hard to go back.
I only have a few 4k, most of my blu-rays are regular (I've been collecting Criterion Collection films. Criterion blu-rays used to go on sale regularly for under $20 on Amazon until recently).
I do have the Criterion Collection Citizen Kane 4k blu-ray (sounds kind of silly, I know, but it was on sale and man it looks outstanding).
I recall an interview in which Paul Reiser said his mom was cheering his on screen death at the premier
Hahaha. That's a great little nugget.
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"Game over man!" makes Bill Paxton as memorable.
Both Paxton and Rodriguez were the highlights of the rest of the cast. Paxton is the guy showing us how we ought to feel, that this is indeed terrifying and fucked up. βGame over man!β is definitely one of the most memorable lines from the film, but a film having two absolutely badass women in Ripley and Vasquez that stood out because they were badasses, and not because they were specifically planted as women to have women be badasses, was great writing - probably thanks to the script being written for βunisexβ characters.
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