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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anyone selling a computer to an institution, like a school or company, it is expected that they will be locked down, especially if the end user isn't technical.

If anything, if google didn't make things locked down and controlled schools would never have bought them and had to worry about debugging the 20 kid's messed up environments.

Kids SHOULD have been tinkering with their own private computers, a laptop from their parents or something like that.

The issue is

  1. All tech companies, Google, Apple, Microsoft, are all pushing for users to store their stuff in their clouds instead of locally on their machines and having to worry about their local filesystems, and their local environments.

  2. Software as a Service, or much better environment standardization through things like steam means if you want to just use software it usually works without much effort. You don't need to debug bad installs or dive through the installations unless you want to mod things, and even then many things have native mod support so you don't even need to poke through the folder structure or understand how software loading works to run sophisticated mods for most games.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Every corporation have a student program. Universities promote corporate products because teachers get money from corporations. But no, blame Google, because they're responsible, it's like saying that IBM was responsible for Hitler. Evil corporations did nothing wrong because evil cannot be changed to good. That's just people who make decisions to put the money on top of morality.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

This is LITERALLY the most regarded take one could have about Chromebooks

What's next, you want to gatekeep education as well?

Voting?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

At the school I was at, it wasn't just that it's a Chromebook, but they also lock the Chromebooks down. You can't use the Linux sandbox feature or the android features, and a proxy is enforced preventing you from going to any websites they deem distracting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I’m on the millennial train here, and am fully onboard with the monopolization angle, but this is taking it a bit far? Chromebooks aren’t that bad.

Stepping back and maybe over generalizing again, I think the problem might be… attention spans? Like kids are so bombarded with feeds and notification spam that, on average, there’s less patience to sit down, look stuff up, and neurotically tinker (which was still the vast minority in my generation). Its the same problem leading to less interest in literature, TV, anything long form.

Learning the bare minimum to function in Windows is not exactly “tech literate” to me, it just happens to be the system so many businesses are stuck with, and some generations were forced to learn by coincidence. Looking back, modern Android and iOS are really accessible by comparison, though of course they have enshittification issues.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's tough. No one is supplying hardware below cost and losing money. They're cheap because by offering only a chrome browser, you don't need much hardware. Most everything was headed online anyway because with the advent of Mac popularity, no one wanted to put out little pieces of software for both Windows and Mac.

Chromebooks weren't unpopular at the start just because, they kicked around until the market shifted enough to everything being online and until schoolboards adopted the "laptop for everyone" mentality. Then schoolboards adopted them because they were cheap cheap cheap. I recall a teacher saying they were also good because it meant everyone was on the exact same office suite (google docs). No different versions where the buttons were in different places, no 2010 version, 365 version, whatever. Everyone had the exact same version. Something broken? Factory reset was dead easy. No techs needed.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

At my school the windows PC's were just as locked down as the Chromebooks. In either case, you clicked the chrome icon and went. I don't agree with this take

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Eh, I don't really agree.

To want to learn something starts with curiosity and the willingness to learn. I was always trying to fuck around with games and programs before I knew that modding was even a thing. When I was met with restrictions I always tried breaking them. I got around admin protection on school computers that literally only had access to the desktop.

My youngest brother on my dad's side (my family is complicated) is a shut-in who barely acts like the adult he's supposed to be, never owned a chromebook, and sits in front of the computer more than I even do. He is incredibly tech illiterate.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

If a kid is working with a 600mhz CPU in 2025, what can they realistically do with that Chromebook other than figure out how to get past a firewall? I remember 2nd hand stories of kids bringing in USBs with cracked minecraft or quake, or screwing around with windows themeing and other nonsense. Now, thats gone. You get a browser, and a file manager. No themes, sometimes no access to even change the wallpaper, all in googles little sandbox. I think this post is somewhat accurate but leaves out the role iPhones play in tech ilitteracy

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah it's a pretty bad take IMHO. When I was a kid we had one 386 desktop computer running MS-DOS. No laptops, phones or tablet. I always liked computers and when I went to high school I noticed a bunch of old broken computers in a storage room one day. Asked the computer teacher (we had computer classes learned MS Word and (blind) typing) if I could try to fix them. Me and a friend spend many luch breaks swapping parts, until about half of them worked again. Learning about something is mostly your willingness to learn. As a highschool kid I would have loved to get a laptop. If I had a Chromebook I'm fairly sure I would have tried to run a custom OS on it or see what else non standard thing I could have unlocked.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is an incredibly dumb take. Tech isn't one dimensional and there isn't a "right" path to tech literacy. I grew up on Windows and I learned a lot of what I know by exploring my laptops and learning new things out of necessity. I ended majoring in CS in working in tech. My sister, who's 5 years younger than me, had Chromebooks growing up both at home and at school, yet she's also a very proficient CS major. Using Chromebooks doesn't show that someone is bad at tech, that's just a baseless assumption.

Chromebooks are just another branch of tech, and there's really nothing wrong with them. They're basically Android tablets in laptop form. Google giving them to schools at a deeply discounted price is not a bad thing. Without them, many schools wouldn't have any sort of tech for their kids to work with. Chromebooks are incredibly useful tools that can enable teachers to incorporate material from the internet into their lessons and help streamline their work.

Hating on things for the sake of hating on them is just lazy and counterproductive. There's a lot to criticize Google for, Chromebooks are not one of them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Not Android, Linux. I was trying to figure out why there are so few Android tablets and read that Google didn't have complete control with Android. That's why Samsung and HTC and others put their own overlay on it. They didn't want that for laptops/bigger devices, so for ChromeOS they locked it down and told the hardware manufacturers "no, it's ChromeOS. You can't fiddle with it. If you want to make Chromebooks, these are the minimum specs and this is the keyboard you must use. If not, fuck off."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Being a CS major (even a good one) isn't a solid measure of tech literacy. CS still suffers from the "do this arbitrary thing so you can get credit"; along with other majors and American schools at large.

Actually I've seen first hand the dumbing down of curriculum in my CS program via my younger peers' stories, and helping them with their coursework. And it's 100% due to low tech literacy.

Edit: grammar.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

These kind of takes have the usual format of "anything a company does is bad" and is profit driven. They forget that there is something called marketing and optics behind it.

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