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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Its basically impossible to avoid too. Anything you buy comes packaged in plastic for the most part.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, the whole concept of "recycling" plastic feels more like a PR strategy than an environmental solution. If it were genuinely effective, we’d see investment, innovation, and accountability—like we do with metals. Instead, we’re handed the guilt while corporations keep pumping out garbage.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Much like the concept of a carbon footprint, it exists solely to make consumers think they can make an individual difference so they won't push for regulations

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah I especially love that one everytime I fly. I get to choose the environmentally friendly option with lower carbon footprint for more money. Who the fuck they think they are kidding? We are all in the same plane burning fuel at 10000 m.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Interesting to compare aluminium recycling with plastic recycling

When the true aim is to recycle material, industry comes to the party and you get a refund scheme, even purpose built deposit facilities that can be set up locally

When the aim is to misdirect public attention toward a non solution you get government mandated plastics recycling bins and penalties for "contamination" plus never ending messaging (gotta keep the lie alive with constant repetition lmaooo). Coercion is just a lowkey admission that the material isn't worth recycling

The real question isn't how to get the plastics industry to change, it's how to make the ruse no longer a tenable position for governments

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

Dont forget the goal of disrupting actual leftist movements into confusion

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly if it was up to me I'd just ban plastic flat out unless you got some kind of "this is actually really important and NEEDS to be made of plastic" cert

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are tons of single-use plastic medical supplies - syringes, wrappers, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would you say that those things are actually really important and NEED to be made of plastic? I wonder if Aeri would account for that possibility

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not the ultimate authority on all things, but I'd question if these things need to be made of plastic.

Syringes are made out of things like Borosilicate glass, Stainless steel, autoclaves and cases exist.

It would also be way less big a deal if we just didn't have as much plastic in general.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It would be a lot more costly to make syringes out of glass/steel for single-use types.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Counterpoint, how much is cancer treatment for (research sounds, papers rustling)... Seven thousand people†?

Multiply that by... some studies show costs of cancer treatment as high as $173,831 annually. 1,216,817,000? Would it cost more than 1.2 billion dollars a year to stop making everything out of plastic? This is just like, napkin ass math I'm not pretending to be a huge know it all or anything by the way. Personally I think that yes, we should stop making things out of poison, even if it costs more money.

A recent study estimated that PFAS contamination in drinking water contributes to more than 6,800 cancer cases each year in the United States.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't disagree with you at all, but I just don't see a way for it to happen in the current corpo-controlled climate.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The sad thing is, only types 1 & 2 plastics are recyclable in any real fashion, and sometimes not even then.

That means types 3 through 7 are better disposed of in the trash, where at least they’ll be sealed into a landfill instead of being shipped overseas to end up somewhere far less environmentally secure.

These types are the numbers inside the recycling symbol. Many things are mixed and matched - a plastic bottle might be a type 1 (recyclable), yet its screw-on cap is typically a type 5 (largely non-recyclable). Always try to find the recycling symbol and dispose of anything not a type 1 or 2 in the trash.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

#7 isn’t even a material, rather “other.”

PS (#6) and plastic films can be recycled at dedicated drop offs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It depends. My municipality recycling bins take type 5.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can absolutely guarantee that it is either

  1. Burned for power generation
  2. Disposed of in a landfill
  3. Exported to a foreign country

Only about 0.5-2% of all “recycled” polypropylene is actually recycled in North America, in places where it is accepted for recycling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

True, fair enough.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I noticed a bottle was recyclable but the label wasn’t, was annoyed that they would do that because I doubt there are many who would read the label to know that

But even recycled plastic just gets shipped to SEA for them to deal with instead of actually being recycled so I guess it doesn’t matter

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Treating waste water? Water treatment plants cost so much that they will never compete with dumping raw sewage into the river!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Which is why my local water treatment plant built a brand new pipe so they can dump directly into the river rather than the local nature reserve.

I'm so glad we privatised that...

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