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Hi all,

Moving away from USA solutions I also want a good European vpn. I contracted GOOSE because it's from my country, but their servers are spotty on mobile and I regularly have connection issues on my Linux.

I want a stable VPN, streaming and P2P enabled, from a European provider. Who has good options? Must be Linux compatible either through an app or OpenVPN/WireGuard.

Is proton a good option?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I use Proton VPN, it's a good service. If you like their other services it's honestly a no brainer.

Personally prefer the no bullshit payment options by mullvad but they no longer support port forwarding.

[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I use PIA (private internet access). I wonder why no one mentioned it yet.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Can you elaborate? Do they support P2P and port forwarding? How is their speed?

No one mentioned them because they're American

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Port forwarding sucks on PIA. You need to have a script running that times out every other week, which means you have to restart it and it will assign a new port that you have to set in your torrent program. It's a pain.

I switched to Airvpn which has been perfect. It's based in Italy and seems very privacy focused. I'm using it with a few torrent servers and the speeds have been good enough for me.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I only have experience with surfshark and nordvpn Surfshark: its fine? NordVPN: its not great, but very cheap with woolsocks's cashback

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately they don't support port forwarding

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

AirVPN. Only trustworthy VPN left that doesn't discriminate traffic and allows port forwarding. You know they're good cause they barely advertise at all.

I don't use Eddie, their client, but just import my config into network-manager on linux. Works with openvpn and wireguard (wg-tools installed on fedora).

I use WG Tunnel app from fdroid on android.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for the detailed description! Their speeds are good?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes its pretty fast in my experience. When I had a 1Gbps fibre connection I regularly saw speeds of 28MBps (MB not Mb, so like over 200Mbps) downloads on steam (so from a single source), I don't recall what my max was when torrenting multiple large files consecutively, but for example a 1080p movie took like 45 seconds. Their compatibility with my docker setup on my server was pleasantly good after many failed attempts with other VPNs.

Mullvad sounded like a good option to me, both pricewise and privacywise, but was a non-starter due to them folding to Hollywoods pressure and disallowing port forwarding. Anyone who torrents without port forwarding and sharing back what they get at least 1:1 is a scab IMO.

Unfortunately I only have a (somewhat tenuous) mobile 5G data connection these days, but here is a fresh speed test result showing about 60 Mbps (Mb this time, not MB) while connected to AirVPN. I ran a few and they averaged 30-60Mbps. Exact same speeds without it on, but with slightly lower ping, about 85-90 ping, but surprisngly higher jitter around the 85-90 too when not connected ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. You'll have to take my word for it that its similar speed without it connected since I don't want to share my actual IP results.

I believe speeds depend on which server you connect to, but they don't implement any throttling on their end, exept an even reduction in allocated speed if a single server's connection becomes saturated. For example if everyone in one region decided to connect to one specific server, it may saturate its network connection and everyone's share of the total bandwidth would reduce. (I personally have not seen this happen, or anywhere near it on any of the servers I regularly connect to). I believe normies that use their default app (Eddie) have access to better features like automatic server switching so I imagine they prevent this from happening with some sort of load balancing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mullvad or Proton. I use Mullvad and am happy with it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I tried both on Linux (for extended period of time) and both are a good choice.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Been running ProtonVPN on Fedora, Debian, and Android for almost a year with no problems.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for sharing your experience! I run Debian so I'm considering it

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you so much for sharing this link! I've clicked on other pages in the footer to find alternatives for other apps and I'm impressed with what I see.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks. I have been working on it for a while. Always good to hear that it's useful.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks, but in my post I mentioned I'm dissatisfied with Goose, so just wanted to get people's input. I read the page

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yep, but I was just posting them in order that they appear as preferable alternatives for that site.

Nord, express, surfshark and others after all owned by the same company, they have been accused of stuff in the past. They also own most of the VPN review sites so put their VPNs consistently in the top 5.

Mullvad would be the best at โ‚ฌ5 per month and as mentioned then proton.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mullvad VPN is pretty great!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

P2P enabled

Mullvad does not support port forwarding.

If you are torrenting without seeding (requires port forwarding) you are the reason free (community seeded) torrenting sucks now.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I seed all my torrents to a ratio of 1.10 and I'm on Mullvad, so clearly someone out there is benefitting.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, I auto remove torrents when I seed to 3.0

Mullvad works for me because in my country the torrent sites are blocked, but not the protocol. I just need the vpn to get the magnet links and then I switch it off.

[โ€“] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have positive experience with Surfshark, their branding comes of as American (to me), but they are from Europe. Owned by the company behind Nord VPN now. No experience with them. Also curious to people's experience with proton VPN (the technological experience, not their CEO experience)

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Very positive experience with Surfshark also here. Wonder why it appears to you as American, because in it's web says that was founded in Lithuania in 2018 and now the company offering the service, Surfshark BV, is registered in Netherlands. So European it is too!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I know, I did some research before using a coupon from a youtuber, but before i did i just had an expectation based on their name and logo and all. Maybe i am the only one and i didn't have to write that, maybe I'm not and somebody might skip over Surfshark because of their branding.

[โ€“] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No port forwarding unfortunately :(

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh yes I see that now, I remember using port forwarding extensively before 2023, but I was not aware of its removal. What a shame /:

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago

P2P enabled

Double checked and ivpn no longer supports port forwarding. Anyone torrenting without seeding is why free (community seeded) torrenting fucking sucks now.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

P2P enabled

Does this mean you need port forwarding?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes in order to "seed" the files you have downloaded you need to port forward your file sharing software's ports.

Basic torrenting etiquette is at least 1:1 ratio if we don't want free easy access to (free) torrents to degrade (too late honestly, we're already there). Pressure from Hollywood to block port forwarding contributes in this degredation.

(Paid) Private trackers have their own ratio rules and you will actually get booted if you don't follow them.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, this would be greatly preferred

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