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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Unfortunately, due to the piss-poor human condition, Canada - and every country on Earth that allows free speech - will go whatever direction the bots run by the nations that do NOT allow free speech want them to go. Anything else is a temporary reprieve.

Boy, I sure didn't see that coming. It's going to be very interesting seeing where such a path ends. Uncomfortable, likely, but interesting.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If we don't do something about social media, disinformation, and voting reform, we will not have a Canada to protect after the next election.

It will be difficult to impossible to hold onto a country that nearly half the population would freely give away without a fight.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, the call to "do something" about social media will only result in renewed efforts to do the wrong thing, as the previous government attempted. Facebook will be made to behave slightly better at the cost of creating a new regulatory system that reinforces its power and makes Canada legally dangerous for fedi instances or other alternatives.

Go on Mr. Carney, please prove me wrong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I do agree. Efforts to make things better usually bring out the worst possible defenders of what's wrong with society.

It's so incredibly frustrating.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If people didn't get their butts out to vote, we'd have a conservative government right now.

There's been a huge increase in U.S. influenced right-wing extremism in Canada and it contributed to the increase in conservative seats in gouvernent.

Don't kid yourselves. Just because P.P. didn't get elected or the Conservatives didn't get a majority, it doesn't mean there isn't a rise of right-wing extremism in Canada.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They would have swept the election if they ran without a leader.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (6 children)

We have 4 years to get canadians away from Twitter and Facebook to Mastodon and Friendica to reduce the amount of influence the oligarchs have on our comms.

Lets bring back the vote subsidy, limit the contribution limits to $100 a year, lower the voting age to 16 and pass proportional representation!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I have mixed feelings about Proportional Representation, I'm worried it would lessen the "local candidate" element of the election. I like the concept of voting for a local representative from my area in Parliament, no matter their party affiliation.

Then again, I like the theory behind Ranked Ballots, but unfortunately in practice they tend to just funnel third party votes to the main parties, which is not right either.

I suppose we could go with PR/STV and triple the amount of representatives to still have some sort of local area representative scheme... but that could get expensive and unwieldy very quick.

Could we get rid of the Senate and have two houses? One house small riding FPTP for local area representation, and one house be party based PR by province?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

local candidate

I used to think like that, until I realized that I never met the past 3 representatives from my riding. They sent representatives to knock on my door during the campaign saying yes to any issue I brought up, they never hold town halls, and only returned generic messages when we tried to contact them - when they answer.

The person elected this time does not live in my riding.

All of them voted with the party, and never proposed anything useful.

That was one of the questions I had for the candidates knocking this time, would you vote against the party if their decision would harm "us"(the riding)?

Today, I rather vote for anyone (or party/independent list) in Canada that would relate to my expectations. I do not care where they live, only that they do a good job.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I have mixed feelings about Proportional Representation, I’m worried it would lessen the “local candidate” element of the election. I like the concept of voting for a local representative from my area in Parliament, no matter their party affiliation.

That is a misnomer as proportional representation is a family of electoral systems. The party-lists is the electoral system that lacks the local representation however Mixed-Member Proportional & Single Transferable Vote both retain it.

I suppose we could go with PR/STV and triple the amount of representatives to still have some sort of local area representative scheme… but that could get expensive and unwieldy very quick.

The elections would cost the same as it would only cost money at first to convert the system from first-past-the-post to the single transferable vote / mixed-member proportional.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Had you not heard of mixed-member proportional rep?

If you really like the local representation that could be for you. The only recent time I can think regional MPs actually coming into play is the heating oil exemption, though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's throw a wrench into things: Dual Member Proportional, a system that doesn't send people who haven't directly stood for election to Ottawa.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I haven't, that's really interesting, slightly on the complicated side to sell to people though.
So you vote both for candidate and party seperately and then once all the candidates are put in seats, they add more representatives designated by the parties to balence the party representation?

Local representation is not great for passing laws, but it is amazing to get things fixed that got bound up in the bureaucracy. Like expedite a passport, or figure out why a pension didn't come. Having your MLA or MP speak for you often has a greater impact than going solo. And it nice that your repw usually has a local office in reasonable travel distance, if you want to speak to them in person.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (7 children)

lower the voting age to 16

I don't agree with this, mostly because that age range is perhaps the most influenced by social media and "misogynist male influencers".

They are too young to know better at that age, and to throw away their future because Joe Rogan or Andrew "The Rapist" Tate manipulated them is just not what this country needs.

But an overhaul of our election system is needed, and laws need to be made that protect people from the barrage of misinformation we are seeing more of every day.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think even worse than voting for fear and resentment, they voted for actual fascism. The guy openly stated that he was going to try to ignore Canadian rights and freedoms without any ambiguity. It's not like him twisting turning Canada into a 3rd world resource economy as a great boost to the economy, or that saving the 1% billions in taxes as a way for the average Canadian to save their money.

One of PP's mandates was to use the notwithstanding clause to bypass Canadian rights and freedoms to jail people without a trial. It was one of his platforms, and there was zero ambiguity that he intended to do it exactly as he stated.

The fact that this wasn't a red flag for over 40% of Canadians and an immediate reason to distance themselves from him, it honestly scares me. Because this is how Hitler and Mussolini came into power, along with many other of history's worst leaders. They sounded reasonable at first, with only one or two shady bits to their mandates, only for those shady bits to be the core that started the greatest evils in the world.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Before the election, I was able to see this multiple poll breakdown that was kind of surprising. If you were under 35 and male, you were more likely to have voted CPC. Every other group (esp. women under 35 and everyone over 65) was more likely to vote LPC. This tells me Poilievre's social media campaign, which you may recall was highly "manosphere"-coded was effective with the target group. The good news then is that (while not making the same mistake as the CPC and forgetting other demographics exist), we can reach these people with a smart approach online.

I think Rational National has a good point in that video I linked that maybe these folks who were taken in by the Conservatives were under the impression because the Liberals were in charge as long as they can remember, everything is solely their fault. They're likely missing the overall historical context that we can't afford to keep the tax burden on poor people (especially as wages stagnate) instead of the rich (whose incomes have been exploding up until Trump's market crashes) as we've been doing increasingly for decades upon decades.

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