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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Now, the team is experimenting with smart tab groups, a new AI-powered feature that suggests names and groups based on the tabs you have open.

Off course, they found a way to integrate more Ai features.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

am i the only one who like, closes all tabs when done? i have tabs I'll come back to when working on something not when it's all finished i close it all the fuck down.

i know 'am i the only one' is a cliche n shit but I'm starting to think i really am. everyone i know has all these tabs open all the time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do this as well - the only exception is work, where I pin a few tabs. Out of curiosity are you an “inbox zero” person? Because I am, and the only parallel I can draw is between that and my similar tab management.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I'm saving all my tabs on a regular basis for 3 firefox pages. How does grouping tabs impact saving them? Does it create sub folders in the main saved tab folder?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I've been using them for a few weeks now. Lifesaver as I try to organize stupid bullshit that life forces on me.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I had to enable them: about:config -> browser.tabs.groups.enabled -> true

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Been loving the feature.

My next hope is that they'll upgrade tab groups so (when collapsed) I can move them around like normal tabs. Right now it's a little awkward if I start the group in the wrong spot.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can't wait for Ironfox to implement this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

is ironfox a better alternative to librewolf? i too moved offa FF when they changed tos

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Been using it for a couple of months now at work. It's good.

I also appreciate how intuitively it works. I wasn't aware of this feature when it first landed in developer edition, but after I accidentally created a group with drag and drop, the feature just clicked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Great. Now do Guest mode. It's a must-have for places like libraries and internet cafes - if Firefox equalled Chrome in this regard it'd easily gain a percent on the market share scale.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Is Guest mode different from Private Browsing?

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I would much rather see Tree Style Tab be integrated.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Doesn't seem to indicate whether groups will work with vertical tabs and unless that's the case, I'm not switching from TST.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I've been using tab groups with vertical tabs. No issues here. I'm on stable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

They do work in vertical tabs, but only one level. You can't have nested tabs as far as I can tell.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I feel like this feature is a good idea that has come too late for me. I already "group" stuff via windows. That'll be a hard habit to break.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Do you use an add-on to prevent that from wiping out all but one window's worth of tabs when you close them? That's what originally made me get a tab grouping addon, after losing a ton of tabs when I broke some out into their own window and then later closed the main tab window before the secondary one. Realized immediately what happened but it was already too late to save that entire generation of precious tabs. Who knows what articles I didn't feel like reading at the time but was totally going to read later I lost forever.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ctrl+Q terminates the whole program at once and you don't lose any windows.

Oh btw, just like Ctrl+shift+t reopens closed tabs, so Ctrl+shift+n reopens whole windows, with all tabs.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I either let the OS close firefox and then it opens all windows when I next start firefox. Or I use ctrl+shift+n to reopen the last closed window

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I close all windows at once via the Quit feature, then it re-opens all of them. You can trigger that from the menubar (press Alt to unhide it) in the "File" menu at the bottom.
You can also re-open a closed window from the "History" menu in that menubar.

These might also be available in the hamburger menu. I've got that hidden, so can't check easily...

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Shit, I remember seeing requests for tab groups for like 20 years under an assortment of names and descriptions. Neat to see. Useless for me, but neat to see.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

This is a nice feature when you have a group of multiple sites you need quick access to on the regular. For me, I manage around 12 websites in three environments ; dev, test, and prod. Being able to group the websites by environment keeps things organized and somewhat readily available at two clicks (maybe three if you count collapsing a group before opening another group).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Next they'll implement DownThemAll natively. Really putting their finger on the pulse of 2008.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

OpenSUSE added parallel downloading to zypper a month ago, so anything is possible.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Considering I've been screeching this to myself, I wonder how they heard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Opera had it before they dropped presto back in like 2013.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To be fair, the current Vivaldi team consists of a lot of the ones that made Opera Presto.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I am on Vivaldi now but after manifest v3? I'm very happy to see tab ~~stacking~~ grouping come to Firefox based browsers as that's definitely the escape plan, possibly very soon.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Firefox laughing in 2004 with anything else...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

You mean laughing in before COVID

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Please help me understand how to use tab groups and how to use bookmarks and why they are different things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For me, open tabs and bookmarks are different levels of the same thing. I'll open a bunch of tabs researching some task I want to do, and leave them open because I want to come back to that. Bookmarks do the same thing, but with lower visibility and higher permanence.

Tab groups let me group a handful of things to reduce the clutter. Similar to the way that folders are useful within the bookmarks manager.

To use them, just drag one tab on top of another, it'll make a new group. Give it a name, and you can now expand/collapse. So 10 tabs all related to one task can stay in-sight to remind you, but only take up 1 tab's worth of space in the bar.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

instead of having 12984 tabs open, you can have 345 groups with only a few dozen tabs in each one.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Multitasking, preparing for meetings/workshops, not having to make bookmarks that are only relevant for the duration of a project/task.

There are many valid uses of tab groups that need to be kept open for quick accessibility without waiting for pages to load or finding specific groups of links that will not be relevant in a week

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tab groups are built for open tabs, bookmarks are built for revisiting things. Their use cases are quite different in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Ok but when do you make the decision to invest in organizing open tabs into groups versus bookmarking them or just moving them to a dedicated window. When do you close the tab or tab group -- only when the initiative is over? Do you "archive" those tabs as bookmarks?

And then there's the profile variable

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I think you organize tabs into different containergroups based on groups and bookmarks

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

This question is a highly personal one from my perspective. I haven't used the groups yet but I often toggle between six or seven contexts throughout the day and I'll give them a shot for that.

Profiles toggling just didn't work for me as it was too ... Slow for me as in I have to reorientate myself whenever I switched profiles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Here's a use case: I often have to open up a bunch of instances of the same website (an internal version of a customer-facing page). They all have the same URL, but because they're single-page apps, they all have massively different functions. For a few hours, I'll need to flip back and forth between a few of them at a time, as well as some other websites on different pages, as well as an external program that I'm referencing or modifying. Then I don't have to do that again for a week or two. So I use a tab group to put all of them in, and then once they're done, I save and close the tab group to reopen next time.

Here's another use case: I can use a single tab inside a "tab group" but use the tab group label to "name" the tab. That way, even though I have a dozen tabs open with the project name I work on at the beginning of the title, I can look at the label and know which one is the Jira ticket for the devops task I'm working on, which one is the Jira ticket for the new feature I'm waiting for QA signoff on, which one is the Jira ticket for the dependency update I need to do, etc. I also use this functionality when I have a bunch of stuff processing and I need to remember which one is on which step; do I need to do step 3 on this one or step 4? The tab group label knows.

Or here's another one: I'm currently in the middle of a big accessibility push for our product's front-end. I have all of the various tabs and resources and Jira tickets and specs open in a tab group, and I can flip between all of them. I open them all every time because it's rare that I only want one of them (though, if I do, it's nice that Firefox automatically sleeps all but the active one when I reopen the group). When I'm working on the project, I open that tab group. When I'm done, I save and close it.

Tab groups were literally the only thing I missed from Chrome when I migrated. I'm so glad to have them back, even though it did take ~~seven~~ five long years. Since it was available as a feature flag, I've used it so much.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

just moving them to a dedicated window.

That's the key, it's like having a separate window, but without the separate window.

At work I'll open anywhere between 40 and 100 tabs at a time, but I want to keep them near my existing tabs and not in another window. I have an extension that opens them all in a new tab group. I typically work from the left edge of the group and close out of tabs as I get through them. I can still hop between my non grouped and grouped tabs without having to change windows. And if I want to pause it for a bit then I "minimize" the group like a window.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know about groups specifically, but keeping a tab open retains its history, so you can go back (and forward) later.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, tab groups maintain history, even across save & reopen operations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oops, I wasn't clear... I meant I don't know what the use-case is for tab groups, but keeping tabs open in any form should save history. (Thank you for letting me know, though!)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I gave a few of my personal use cases above, but in short: when I need to reference or act on multiple things on different sites at short notice, and will probably need to again later; to label tabs; and when I need multiple tabs of the same website, but because the URL doesn't update a bookmark is insufficient.

Edit: You're welcome!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most of what web browsers do is the same feature multiple times just presented differently

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