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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Consider Kagi far superior.

I ditched Google and Gmail.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Best AI models from OpenAI, Anthropic, Meta, Google - included in one $25/mo subscription with our Ultimate plan.

Same trash.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I ditched it around 2014 when I noticed it had effectively become the yellow pages. Its pretending to be one thing to the ‘user’ when its actually serving someone else. This is transparent of course but the balance/compromise or tradeoff of it still providing some utility to the user despite this is what may vary for different people. My threshold was low. That and the privacy violations. Unfortunately its a corporation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I still include Google results in my Searx.

Definitely miss the good ol’ days where it was optimized to give the best results. Same goes for Netflix recommendations back in the the DVD mailer days…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

interesting. looks like yandex and yahoo are the ones who took it.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I stopped using Google at the same time I closed my accounts with Facebook, instagram, Reddit and Amazon. Currently I'm using Ecosia which I think is German. I’m dumping all the US companies I can based on all the Trump crap. It is taking time and effort but I should be able to actually close the Google account soon and I replaced windows with Linux on all but one of my PCs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Same here! Loved the switch to Linux.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Ecosia still uses American services though - they use Google, Bing, Yahoo and Wikipedia for search results.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah but don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Among other things, they just recently announced that they're starting to build an alternative index with Qwant.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I've never heard of Ecosia, but I don't understand your logic on this.

Problem: Google bad!

Solution: Don't use google, use Ecosia instead.

Error: Ecosia also uses google.

How is this a good move? If anything it's just a lateral move with the same problem.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Eventually they'll stop using G and MAYBE they have better impact in the climate. Why be a fucking prick about it?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm using Qwant, used Ecosia before. Really OK for most stuff. I still revert to googling occasionally - mainly for local businesses on maps and sometimes shopping results. But I agree, don't let perfect be the enemy of good, well said.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

In Ecosia's settings you can set it to primarily use Google results instead of Bing. Makes it a lot more enjoyable to use.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Definitely true. I'll have to try it out. Is Ecosia better than DuckDuckGo or Kagi?

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I switched when the answers I got started to become bullshit. I’d google a simple question just to double check if it was correct, but it gave me something completely different. Something so out of the realm of possibility that I was baffled.

I check the sources for the answer and they were not even related. After that I started paying more attention to how messed up google had become, and I had enough.

Google scholar however is still something I need.. even though I dislike American corporations.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's kind of unreal that they took something that worked perfectly well for 25 years and then fucked it up entirely overnight, for no good reason.

Stick in bike spokes meme.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They did that to drive up short term ad revenue and it worked, and joy was in their greedy little hearts. They also did figure out that poisoning search results drives away users, and that search is kinda the fastest gateway drug to their entire ecosystem.

But they're stuck. Fixing search would lower their ad revenue, and stock holders would kill them for that.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Enshitification.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

and the nature of their 1000s of experiments going at the same time isn't methodical at all. they don't actually know what iteration of google search was the best and most useful one. there's no going back to what worked because at no point did they ever know what worked. the modern shitty google search is the best version we will ever get to use again.

google embedded them as a core piece of information infrastructure and then demolished themselves. now our information networks fundamentally do not work anymore

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

ohthankgod!

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