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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

And they will claim they are in their right to return force. Idk what to tell you. I agree this is fucked up and you should have a right to defend your home.

That is the most basic American shit. The people that are on the white house legal team agree with that unless it conflicts with executive authority. To me that seems like you might as well have a king at that point, but they believe that a leader is chosen to promote what is best for his people. Given he was elected to do that, law and order (which is up to the leaders interpretation) takes presedence over liberty.

Adrian Vermeule is a Harvard constitutional law professor who has been making the argument the constitution should be interpreted to favor executive authority and power over individual liberty for a very long time.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

It sounds like we should prepare for a rash of home invasion shootings. (I'm not promoting anything, just saying)

[–] [email protected] 153 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This is the actual reason why there is a 2nd amendment

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

They believe the constitution should be interpreted to uphold the will of a leader/law and order over liberty of the people.

I'm not saying I disagree with you, just telling you what the legal argument will likely be when they arrest people or return force when people try to defend their home.

That argument JD Vance made about judges not having the authority to rule against executive decision is not his original argument. Adrian Vermeule is a Harvard constitutional law professor who has been making the argument favoring unchecked executive authority over all other government and executive power over liberty for a very long time.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

Yeah, there's already a video of them doing this.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Gee I wonder what Americans tend to do to trespassers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I agree, but realistically there's an entire private and public military behind this administration they could use against the people whenever they feel necessary.

The same people that argue what JD Vance does about the interpretation of the constitution not allowing for judicial decisions to supercede executive, also argue that it is up to an executive leader to uphold good/law and order as he sees fit. When it comes down to it, liberty is secondary to whatever the leader determines is necessary to maintain law and order.

Adrian Vermeule is a Harvard constitutional law professor who has been making the argument favoring executive authority and power over liberty for a very long time.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In a more just world, our local police forces would stop this illegal activity.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Our local cops owe their authority to the State

I have a hard time imagining a world with cops at all that don't end up doing this

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[–] [email protected] 190 points 3 days ago (5 children)

So Trump is telling ICE to break the law? It looks like Trump is guilty of another crime.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Susan Collins just called: said he learned his lesson and it won’t happen again.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Who's gonna fuckin stop em??

They just arrested a judge. The only people who've been able to slow this roll.

What do you think happens next...?

The entire Armed Forces and Judicial Branch of the Executive is cronies from the Cabinet and AG down. If they feel like it they'll mobilize militias to do their work for them.

Citizen cops. Watch out. You may not hate cops now, but you'll understand what's been wrong with the whole system real soon. "Good cops" will be placeholders for men favorable to the regime. They will be corrupted.

Bribes will become commonplace in day-to-day business. This will often feel counterproductive. That's because it is.

Odds are this will play out quietly. Unless the Military does a surprise one, the Democrats aren't putting forward anything capable of challenging the regime. Sorry AOC and Bernie, I love you but Coachella ain't gonna cut it.

Build federated networks in your own life. The model applies. Organize horizontally not vertically/hierarchically. Find people making choices and doing things and help them.

Added predictions: the US invades Panama (again). Ukraine drags out. Recession settles in, staved off by markets hungry for short-term gains looted from Latin America, Ukraine, probably both. Probably around September a major bubble pops in the US stock market no matter what the tariff situation ends up being. Things get worse. Edit: Panama invasion may come as a result of this

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago

So far breaking the law hasn’t bit him yet. Why should he start following it now?

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

I know most people on Lemmy are already aware of this, but I'm wondering if anyone who still doesn't think it will effect U.S. citizens (whatever that even means anymore) realize that DHS is also trying to dismantle their civil rights offices.

They are claiming it is because the offices keep getting in the way of their immigration practices, but only 2 of the 3 offices have to do with immigration.

They 3rd is the office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties. It doesn't matter if you believe you're the "right kind of American," or you can argue that you can trace your family to the Mayflower. This is who ensures you have civil rights and civil liberties while dealing with DHS. If you or a loved one end up in DHS custody for some reason and need to use FOIA to prove it happened, this is the office you would rely on.

The people that handle domestic security for the country want to get rid of the office that protects the rights of Americans. Meanwhile, they have also signed this memo saying they no longer need a warrant to search people's homes if they suspect there might be an immigrant hiding in your home bc those immigrants might be terrorists.

Again, if you're thinking well I'm not hiding immigrants, it really doesn't matter.

Maybe one of your neighbors reported you were to fuck with you. Maybe you pissed off the wrong DHS agent or other government employee and you're being targeted.

The point is, if you're not concerned because you think it won't effect you, your ancestors that "came here legally" to escape tyranny would think you're either stupid, delusional, or simply choosing to be in complete denial of reality.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe one of your neighbors reported you were to fuck with you. Maybe you pissed off the wrong DHS agent or other government employee and you're being targeted.

This is exactly what happened during the French Reign of Terror, the Salem Witch Trials, and countless other times throughout history. It's happened before, and it will happen again. If someone doesn't like you for whatever reason, they would now have a way to get rid of you, just by using one accusation, regardless of whether it's true or not.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

Yeah this is serious authoritarian secret police 101

They just defanged Congress and the Judicial, now they don't need judges at all unless they want em. This seals the coup

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 3 days ago (3 children)

ICE is a criminal organization.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago

All cops are bastards and most are working with them

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