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In his new book The Return of Great Powers, which comes out Tuesday, reporter Jim Sciutto interviews several of Trump’s former advisers. All of them stressed that Trump regularly lavished praise on authoritarian leaders around the world, calling Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán “fantastic,” Chinese President Xi Jinping “brilliant,” and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un an “OK guy.”

Horrifyingly, Trump also said, “Well, but Hitler did some good things,” according to John Kelly, who served as White House chief of staff from 2017 to 2019.

“I said, ‘Well, what?’ And he said, ‘Well, [Hitler] rebuilt the economy.’ But what did he do with that rebuilt economy? He turned it against his own people and against the world. And I said, ‘Sir, you can never say anything good about the guy. Nothing,’” Kelly told Sciutto. “I mean, Mussolini was a great guy in comparison.”

Kelly said that Trump also praised Hitler for achieving complete loyalty from senior Nazi officials—and Trump expected similar fealty from the retired generals he brought on to his cabinet.

“He would ask about the loyalty issues and about how, when I pointed out to him the German generals as a group were not loyal to him, and in fact tried to assassinate him a few times, and he didn’t know that,” Kelly said. “He truly believed, when he brought us generals in, that we would be loyal—that we would do anything he wanted us to do.”

"Hitler did some good things" would end absolutely anyone else's campaign in America. And this guy still has a chance of winning.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

"Fun" fact Hitler was a speed freak. He would take speed before speeches so that he looked more animated.

Now say if anyone wanted to draw any parallels....

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

GOP Voters: "I don't see the problem here."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

"He was a good man, just had a slight issue with a few jews that didn't obey the law" - probably the GOP

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Here's mine:

  1. He's dead
[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Hey I've got a list of things I like about Hitler too! Lemme read them off to you....

  1. Some of his paintings are decent
  2. He killed Hitler

......

Wait sorry that was the entire list

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

. 3. He's dead

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Surely the guy who killed Hitler must be a hero, no?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I wouldn't go that far with number one. I'd say his paintings were not unskilled, but pretty boring.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

“You know, with Hitler, the more I learn about that guy, the more I don’t care for him.” - Norm Macdonald

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I didn't even know he was sick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think about this a lot. If Hitler offered me 10 million dollars I'd take it, but that doesn't mean I have to like him. I'm OK with admitting people I don't like sometimes did good things, even if by accident. I think this is logically consistent because there are a lot of people I think are really good that occasionally do bad things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can you tell us some of the good things Hitler did?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Sure, even the most evil people don't kick puppies ALL day. Note: I am not a Hitler supporter, just pointing out that TOTAL evil doesn't exist:

  • Hitler's early reforms in Germany helped reduce unemployment significantly. Between 1933-1936, he introduced a series of measures aimed at generating jobs and revitalizing the economy through the Four Year Plan. By the time World War II began, the rate had dropped from over 30% to around 7%.

  • Hitler initiated major infrastructure improvements throughout Germany, including building new roads, highways, bridges, airports, harbors, and canals. This helped modernize the country and facilitated trade and travel.

  • Under Hitler’s rule, Germany made significant progress in areas such as education and healthcare. There was a sharp increase in the number of school children and students enrolling in universities, as well as investments in scientific research.

  • Women's rights were expanded during this period. Hitler allowed married women to continue working outside the home and gave them the right to equal pay for equal work. He also promoted women's participation in the labor market by providing subsidies for childcare services.

  • Hitler's government launched a massive rearmament program, which led to rapid advances in German military technology. These advancements played a crucial role in the early successes of the Wehrmacht during WWII.

  • The Nazi Party under Hitler invested heavily in improving housing conditions and construction projects for average citizens, notably through programs like the "Strength Through Joy" initiative, which provided low-cost vacations for workers.

  • German culture flourished during the Third Reich. Hitler understood the importance of art, music, theater, and literature in maintaining national pride and identity. He funded numerous arts projects and encouraged artists to produce works that reflected his vision for a strong, unified Germany.

I can also create lists of really bad and evil things that he did, so he's not exactly my favorite person.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Not that anyone would expect Trump to know this, but Hitler rebuilding the economy was kind of a fraud. He basically used fake currency (before it was cool), banned unions and made it nearly impossible to quit a job, and stole from a big chunk of Germany's own population and those surrounding it. Ordinary Germans saw a decline in their real wages by 25% from 1933 to 1938, and obviously things only got worse from there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Additionally many undesirable people were forced out of high skill jobs or had their business taken away. Robbing businesses of effective managers and workers. Leading to loss of productivity and a fall in GDP.

Both Nazi Germany and post war divided Germany made for very interesting natural experiments in economics. Weirdly because it would be unethical to do them as a controlled studying....

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That actually is the core Nazi ideology. Honest work building something up by the rules is not cool, means weakness and degeneracy. Fraud and robbery is cool, means strength and cunning. But at the same time putting yourself into something sacrificial is cool too. "We do not sow" and all that.

So it was fraud, but I think most of the Germans loyal to that ideology understood that emotionally.

Many people in the Middle East and Africa have such worldview today.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Kanye is his ghostwriter

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I, too, have a list of things I love about Adolf Hitler:

  1. He's long dead
  2. He ruined that stupid mustache for all time
[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Best thing he ever did, tbh.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

But TBF he was also killed by Hitler, so I think that one's a draw.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Y'know on first glance I thought this article was from The Onion but no...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Is it his orange skin and impeccable hair?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the "hitler was good for the economy" bullshit. Even if you'd ignore all the atrocities (which you shouldn't), fact is that the outcome was a country in ruins.

And Hitler's economic plan was always based on stealing resources from other countries through war, because else the country's spending was unsustainable.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

Yes. In fact it’s a myth that the economy was strong even in the short term.

So I guess Trump wants the government to take over most businesses, have them make panzer tanks and Messerschmitts, and invade a bunch of countries to get slave labor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Somehow, Conservatives will still find a way to justify voting for him. This would be a deal breaker in any other decade.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Baby Boomers can’t die off fast enough; it seems very reductive to blame this entire situation on them, but in simplest terms they are still the largest voting bloc and they are the last generation to swing more conservative as they aged.

Millennials and Zoomers aren’t off the hook, though. We need to not let apathy take over; every election is important, because there are those who are looking to take away your rights at every opportunity they get - and we can’t let them win, ever. For the sake of all of our futures - vote like your life depends on it, because it actually might.

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