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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

What's that? There was a moral panic when kids were sent to the fields and behaved terribly in the eyes of polite society?

The farmers have discovered that women work steadily only under the direction of men, but that women and children, once set going, impetuously spend their life-force — as Fourier knew — while the adult male labourer is shrewd enough to economise his as much as he can. The gang-master goes from one farm to another, and thus employs his gang from 6 to 8 months in the year. Employment by him is, therefore, much more lucrative and more certain for the labouring families, than employment by the individual farmer, who only employs children occasionally. This circumstance so completely rivets his influence in the open villages that children are generally only to be hired through his instrumentality. The lending out of these individually, independently of the gang, is his second trade.

The “drawbacks” of the system are the overwork of the children and young persons, the enormous marches that they make daily to and from the farms, 5, 6, and sometimes 7 miles distant, finally, the demoralisation of the gang. Although the gang-master, who, in some districts is called “the driver,” is armed with a long stick, he uses it but seldom, and complaints of brutal treatment are exceptional. He is a democratic emperor, or a kind of Pied Piper of Hamelin. He must therefore be popular with his subjects, and he binds them to himself by the charms of the gipsy life under his direction. Coarse freedom, a noisy jollity, and obscenest impudence give attractions to the gang. Generally the gangmaster pays up in a public house; then he returns home at the head of the procession reeling drunk, propped up right and left by a stalwart virago, while children and young persons bring up the rear, boisterous, and singing chaffing and bawdy songs. On the return journey what Fourier calls “phanerogamie,” is the order of the day. The getting with child of girls of 13 and 14 by their male companions of the same age, is common. The open villages which supply the contingent of the gang, become Sodoms and Gomorrahs, [112] and have twice as high a rate of illegitimate births as the rest of the kingdom. The moral character of girls bred in these schools, when married women, was shown above. Their children, when opium does not give them the finishing stroke, are born recruits of the gang.

The gang in its classical form just described, is called the public, common, or tramping gang. For there are also private gangs. These are made up in the same way as the common gang, but count fewer members, and work, not under a gang-master, but under some old farm servant, whom the farmer does not know how to employ in any better way. The gipsy fun has vanished here, but according to all witnesses, the payment and treatment of the children is worse.

The gang-system, which during the last years has steadily increased, [113] clearly does not exist for the sake of the gang-master. It exists for the enrichment of the large farmers, [114] and indirectly of the landlords. [115] For the farmer there is no more ingenious method of keeping his labourers well below the normal level, and yet of always having an extra hand ready for extra work, of extracting the greatest possible amount of labour with the least possible amount of money [116] and of making adult male labour “redundant.” From the exposition already made, it will be understood why, on the one hand, a greater or less lack of employment for the agricultural labourer is admitted, while on the other, the gang-system is at the same time declared “necessary” on account of the want of adult male labour and its migration to the towns. [117] The cleanly weeded land, and the uncleanly human weeds, of Lincolnshire, are pole and counterpole of capitalistic production. [118]

Das Kapital, Chapter 25, Section 5.E

EDIT: See also, Chapter 15, Section 3

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why is cockroach gold now going as Zack?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

he's running

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Better idea. How about we put malignant narcissists and other “le epic trolls” and put THEM in the coal mines to teach them humility?

I’ll never understand why people love being assholes and neurotypicals love assholes and despise kindness.

Cruelty doesn’t make you smart, it makes you look like a decadent pig.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

I do think it is a byproduct of capitalism. Kindness doesn't make profit, so it is discouraged, even if it is "officially" seen as a good virtue by people, a lot of people love the anime villain/toddler logic of "It doesn't benefit me personally, so I view it as weakness."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

i get that he doesn't exactly want this and that he's being edgy as a cover for eugenics but like my brother in christ if that was the case you would've been streaming from the coal mines, which is cleaner than your room anyway.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Asmongold providing high value to society (he’s reacting to a Trump speech calling for the Baby Shredder 3000 to continue operation): “Based”

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My high school had the special education students clean the lunch room and take out the garbage etc, supposedly to prepare them for jobs they could do, so they were sort of on this trend. This was the more 'progressive' school in the area as well, in a blue state.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago

Preparing them to work for inadequate compensation since that’s legal for disabled people?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

If I were God, here's how the afterlife would work:

Upon dying, each person would stand before me. I would ask them to describe their ideal society, telling them that they will spend eternity on the top rung of it. After they have finished describing their society, I create it exactly as they described, but they spend eternity on the bottom rung instead (maybe they get to try again in a millennium or so).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

Finally a chance to say "fully automated luxury gay space communism" and actually have it work in my favour.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago

you wouldn't have to tell them they were on the top because they would automatically place themselves there

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

Weaponized veil of ignorance goes hard

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Society would dramatically improve if we took everyone who had similar opinions and gave them the treatment they advocate for.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

In a sane world, he’d be locked up for this.

Literally advocating for the enslavement of children and threw in a slur to show how much of a sexy sexy Bad Boy^TM^ you are? Yeah, your ass belongs is solitary.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - A guy who had a whole lot of bad politics but produced an absolute banger of a quote

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

my mans contributes nothing to society yet has takes like this

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

I feel like every opinion this guy has can just be refuted by showing that clip of him using a dead rat cooking in the sun as an alarm clock

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

Society would instantly and dramatically improve for everyone that we don't force immense needless suffering on people if we force immense needless suffering on people

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

Society would instantly and dramatically improve if we barbara-pit all the Gamers