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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

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Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

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The March 14 directive, signed by Attorney General Pam Bondi, uses an obscure 18th-century law — the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 — to give law enforcement nationwide the power to bypass basic constitutional protections.

According to the memo, agents can break into a home if getting a warrant is “impracticable,” and they don’t need a judge’s approval. Instead, immigration officers can sign their own administrative warrants. The bar for action is low — a “reasonable belief” that someone might be part of a Venezuelan gang is enough.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago

Good to know that a Stetson University law degree isn’t worth the paper its printed on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago

The law nerd in me is intrigued by the idea of a Third Amendment issue arising in the wild.

The citizen in me is horrified that they'd even fucking try.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago

By the time they enter, if they do, it will no longer be my home. It will belong to my estate. Fuck this admin. I hope we survive is and learn from it, at least until the next century when we will have forgotten about it again.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago

Well, thats one way to get rid of them. Cleaning up the mess is on you though

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago

A "memo". A fucking memo. No, this is a violation of the Constitution. Fuck your memo.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

No they can't, at least legally.

I know they want to be like their idols in the Gestapo, but things quite there yet. Although it's getting very close.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

There is no "legal" in America now. RESIST

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Incidentally, it's perfectly legal to own a mounted gatling gun on top the of your property.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Having read the title and also the whole article.... Let me say. The fuck no you can't. Let's get letigious or let's get the vests. I've got over 200 years of jurisprecisence and the moral high road. We can skip the cultural perogative if you really want to. Or in this case you can endorse it. It doesn't matter to me. as a cisgender white male and, and prolific gun owner, who is utterly tired of this already, let's fuckin go. I've been waiting and i've finally got the perfect set up to tell you how many ways you can blow it out your ass.

Disgusting anti American anti constitutional blowhards all of them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

LOL "anti American"
It is the most american thing ever.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Love this energy. Get litigious first. The thugs like violence, but they cant win at court - at least not without their favourite judges.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

This prescident isn't giving time to be litigious first. They will be in your home before you can dial 911, whom is likely helping this happen.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The second amendment says that they can’t

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

The 2nd is most definitely a recommendation that they tread pretty damn lightly with this one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago

The only time the Alien Enemies act should be used is in an extreme emergency: Say, for example, an orange man wanting to press a big red button to burn the world to cinders.

ICE, if it truly wanted to do things the right way, can do the 'practicable', by waiting for judges and their juries to render judgement. As we have clearly seen, ICE doesn't measure up to even basic sense nor decency. Here's hoping that ICE is broken by the people, for the people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago

"Hiel Trump" is required when people meet in public or private. Any hesitation must be treated with aggressive concern and reported to all, immediately. This is the only way to keep America safe from (insert current list of threats).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Ok let me get this straight. There's no legal migrant anymore?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago

actually anyone can be "considered illegal" they left enough vagueness in the policy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago

When did they mention migrants at all? The way this is written up is that anyone can be acted upon, all it requires is a "reasonable belief" that someone might be part of a Venezuelan gang. And lets face it, if they have their way no one will be checking anyone's documents before, during or after these raids.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

Something something illegal search and seizure blah blah blah, meaningless paper to the people who claim it to be the one all, be all document.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

If anyone forces their way into my house without a warrant, they are getting shot.

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