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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

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Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

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The March 14 directive, signed by Attorney General Pam Bondi, uses an obscure 18th-century law — the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 — to give law enforcement nationwide the power to bypass basic constitutional protections.

According to the memo, agents can break into a home if getting a warrant is “impracticable,” and they don’t need a judge’s approval. Instead, immigration officers can sign their own administrative warrants. The bar for action is low — a “reasonable belief” that someone might be part of a Venezuelan gang is enough.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago

Bang bang bang.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Enter my home without a warrant or identifying yourself, and your gonna leave in a casket.

I've also explained to my family that we do not open the door to anyone, especially people who claim to be cops. Way too easy to claim it, then force their way in while your waiting for them to prove who they are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 38 minutes ago

I think trump is a fwit, but sounds like there will be more than 1 bodybag leaving.

Not a good survival strategy for your family honestly....

Better off moving somewhere safe like Australia. No guns here. No idea why anyone would want to live in that shit hole anymore with all the corruption, shitty leaders, dangerous living environment, and uneducated idiots in charge

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

Oops, thought it was a republican breaking into my house. ICE does love wearing those masks because they know what they're doing is wrong, sorry not sorry.

And it was. I don't like guns, but I live in a shithole with fascists 🤷

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

Look, I’m going to risk… being misunderstood here… but I’m going to link to this article by way of pointing out how using subject lines that inspire disgust and apathy is how corporate social media works to divide and paralyze people. It’s in this article and it’s something to think about:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/google-x-and-facebook-are-modern-day-tobacco-companies/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Read as: Enter your home under the false pretense they're looking for migrants, so they can search for any reason to charge you with a crime and toss you in a camp.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like a second amendment solution.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago

violent problems require violent solutions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

This is fucked.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

If a bunch of armed guys in masks show up refusing to identify themselves or provide warrants, what do you think most people would assume they are???

In a country with more guns than people, this seems line an insanely stupid tactic that guarantees preventable tragedies.

Warrants get rubber stamped on a regular basis, the argument that it's suddenly too onerous a burden and they're just allowed to ignore our constitutional rights is pretty fucking absurd too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

It's the rubber stamping that is the problem. Sometimes they get a talking to when they get too rambunctious and kill a few innocent bystanders. Now there's no rules to bind them, so have at er!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

law enforcement isn't known for it's critical thinking

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

Considering ICE likes to abduct people in masks, civilian clothing and without any identification and thus are easily confused with burglars, i'd say shoot on sight for trespassing would be a viable option.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Like fuck they can.

I'm not fucking going to El Salvador.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Good thing I'm not an illegal immigrant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure the other people living in the US legally that were shipped off to El Salvador thought the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Abrego Garcia is the only one viewed as a "legal citizen", despite entering the country illegally.

Give me a list of legal citizens that have been deported to El Salvador.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago

Just to be clear, Abrego Carcia was not viewed as a US citizen but was in the US legally. This could be the same case for many others that have been sent to the prison camp but how exactly are we supposed know when none of them have been their due process?

How can it even be acceptable to send someone to a foreign prison indefinitely without sentence, even if they were in the US illegally?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Lol do you think that actually matters to these people?

With hate like this the goal posts are always moving, searching for a new scapegoat...

You are a fool if you think that process won't turn against you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

Glad that you took the bait.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

And yet people keep telling me Democrats are just as bad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago

Nobody says that. But you can pretend they do. The actual message is almost always something like the following.

The Democrats are in fact bad. Really bad. A bunch of pro corporate assholes who enabled the Republicans to get where they are today in ways that we all clearly predicted years and decades ago. And on immigration, they're fucking horrible. The Republicans are worse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Those GOSH DARN Democrats keep trying to feed and house immigrants with MY TAX DOLLARS.

Instead of putting them in cages and throwing them in prison. (AGAIN WITH TAX DOLLARS.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

Cuz the Blondie General sez so.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

And what the US citizens will do about this ? Enough is enough when your country gets geopardized and still couple protests won't do it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

Welp, thats a death sentence for ICE agents. Cool.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

Fortunately the courts say otherwise

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