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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Do we get to choose how it’s distributed? Here are some fun options I came up with.

  1. $13.69 per day for a year. (Nice). About $419/month. Maybe they could round up to $420 because they stale internet meme culture is hip

  2. $0.76 per day for 18 years. A guaranteed $22.80 per month for an entire childhood

  3. $5000 lump sum. I can’t find any widely accepted figures for average out of pocket cost of prenatal care, child birth, and infant health visits. I’ll wild ass guess it a at covering 20-75% of those visits for people who have insurance. For people without insurance, looks like an uncomplicated vaginal birth averages $14k. But again huge variations in price

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe if the world people were raising their kids in didn't look so fucking gloomy thanks to some fascist fucks, they'd want to have more kids.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He is rich and has no reference for the price of everyday items

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

It's one year of daycare, Michael. What could it cost? $5000?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Think of how many bananas you could buy with $5k.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

"It's raising a child for ~20 years, Michael. What could it cost? 5k?"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

People are not having kids because the middle class cannot afford it. Assuming your household has the average American household income of 80k. This would give the household something like 40k at most after the kid's associated expenses, which means that each parent would have a whopping 20k to themselves. This is positively fucked because they would have to have a quality of life similar to someone who is eligible for food stamps, but they would not be themselves. Kids are for those who already benefit from government programs, or those who can afford a very expensive pet for a minimum of 15 years.

All this will do is increase the number of children born into poverty, which already accounts for the majority of children born in America.

You want an actual solution? Give parents food stamps up to a yearly income of 120k

I also find the implication that a human life is worth $5,000 disgusting.

It was clear to me that when the gov't went after reproductive rights, it was because declining birthrates are detrimental to capitalism. The money cannot stop; the money cannot slow down. Capitalism REQUIRES exponential growth in every regard.

Any "moral" reason given by a politician against abortion is a thinly veiled disguise to ensure that the machine always has enough cogs to keep running and growing.

How are you going to say a fetus is priceless and then say a live infant is worth $5,000? Fucking disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

First you need to take out taxes, then you can budget with what’s leftover.

No one making $80k a year has $80k to spend unless they’re a drug dealer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t see a clear association in saying a baby is worth $5,000 when existing tax law says a baby is worth $2,000 off your taxes. It’s an incentive, not a bill of sale.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Drops back down to $1000 for 2025 unless the increase is extended. A $5000 payout is actually less of a payout than just extending the current CTC.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It costs $40k/year for daycare. Start handing out $5k to moms, daycare now costs $45k/year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They already hand out 3k a year for kids, up to 6k, as well as up to 5k in credits available based on how much you spend and your income level. And I live in Jersey, where everything is expensive, and we were ranked fifth most expensive place to have kids in daycare, and even with two kids in I didn't pay 40k. Not sure we even cracked 30k, but it was probably close.

EDIT: Info is dated, good thing I have an accountant. Looks like it's 2k per kid, and the 3/6k is for dependent care credits, which applies from 35% to 20% based on your tax bracket (goes down the more you make).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

It blows my mind that so many people don’t understand this concept.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe they should improve the quality of life for working families to get them to be confident enough to have more babies naturally?

....nah, it's obviously the queers fault!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Japan has an aging population and tried a lot, with not much success...

Prosperity = less kids, so we shouldn't be surprised what Trump is going to try...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

lol at one point I was paying more for daycare than my mortgage.

5k, these people are 🤡

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

May barely cover the hospital bill for those many without health insurance. But of course the proposed bonus is intended for middle class white babies

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Average cost for an uninsured birth is 19,000.

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