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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (12 children)

Heard they planning to do same shit in Russia. Honestly, I don't think this will work in any country.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 weeks ago

Lmao no it doesn't

Americans aren't that stupid

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

With the tariffs that hardly helps.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago

He should know that you can't buy that many diapers with $5k.

Unless he doesn't do his own diaper shopping I guess...

[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

5000$ is a lot. In Germany you get only 250€

well, that'sper month until they're 27 (as long as they're still in school/university)
plus free healthcare for mother and child
plus free daycare (depending on the state)
plus free schools and universities
...

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

We can all hope once the nazis leave, we too can be a civilized country.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

You forgot maternity leave, something the 'mricans don't know, either.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

To add on, seems like the 5k (USD) is a one-time lump sum. Your price quote from Germany is already 3k (EUR) after a year. It only ever outscales the 5k.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

See. Let's ping Trump and tell him about it.

Maybe he'll see the light

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Daycare cost $2k a month

Is that for real? That's more than (many) private schools in Europe.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

A 2 bedroom 1 bathroom house in Toronto costs more than a castle in france

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

Well to be fair, that's what it costs in many European countries, too.

That's why many women don't work. The cost is basically as high as a low paying or part time job.

That's why everyone needs free daycare. That will generate a higher GDP for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

https://www.daycarefee.com/countries/germany/

I don't have a full analysis, but at least this source points at 1500 to be the high end of the expensive cities in Germany, with public care as low as 100.

So is 2000 a "normal" value in many areas, or a high end of some?

I have the feeling this is inflated and we just accept.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

Thanks for sharing.

I checked for Netherlands and it seems to be easily over 2k a month for fulltime care (172-240 hours).

The thing I wasn't aware of is the subsidies low income parents receive. Up to 96%. Seems to be a bit lower in practice, but still almost all is covered.

That doesn't account for high cost areas, and is dependent on income. But the conclusion seems to be that it's far cheaper than I mentioned for the end consumer.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

https://blog.dol.gov/2024/09/30/we-analyzed-5-years-worth-of-childcare-prices-heres-what-we-found#%3A%7E%3Atext=Monthly+childcare+prices+in+2018%2Cof+a+family%27s+median+income).

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/15/business/child-care-cost-average-annual

It can depend of state to state too. In Oklahoma, our cost of living is considered low but we have a high poverty rate. Our median income per household is 67k, and single income is 35k. Childcare for infants averages around $800 a month

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They'll need a population boost after Trump deny's immigrants entrance into America.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

$5k in a Roth IRA in the sp500 at birth is the only way that it is worth anything.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Haha, what's $4k in the sp500 gonna do? I guess having $3k in the sp500 is better than nothing...

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Wages have not kept up with productivity and GDP increases since the 1970s.

How about making single income middle class families possible again, so you can have one stay at home parent.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It won't even cover the cost of giving birth. This is some real "how much could a banana cost" energy.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Also, the cost of giving birth will magically jump up by $5,000 as soon as this passes. It was never a function of how much it cost to actually provide that service.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

$8000 if the mother wants to hold her baby after birth

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

And you wanna take that baby home? Well there's a few for that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago

monkey paw finger curls You get free healthcare coverage and half minimum wage for each child just for existing. However, you and your child must renounce your citizenship, forfeit your passport, and accept indentured servant status until you can buy back your citizenship after repaying the government child support in full.

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