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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

5000$ is a lot. In Germany you get only 250€

well, that'sper month until they're 27 (as long as they're still in school/university)
plus free healthcare for mother and child
plus free daycare (depending on the state)
plus free schools and universities
...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

See. Let's ping Trump and tell him about it.

Maybe he'll see the light

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Daycare cost $2k a month

Is that for real? That's more than (many) private schools in Europe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 30 minutes ago

https://blog.dol.gov/2024/09/30/we-analyzed-5-years-worth-of-childcare-prices-heres-what-we-found#%3A%7E%3Atext=Monthly+childcare+prices+in+2018%2Cof+a+family%27s+median+income).

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/15/business/child-care-cost-average-annual

It can depend of state to state too. In Oklahoma, our cost of living is considered low but we have a high poverty rate. Our median income per household is 67k, and single income is 35k. Childcare for infants averages around $800 a month

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They'll need a population boost after Trump deny's immigrants entrance into America.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

$5k in a Roth IRA in the sp500 at birth is the only way that it is worth anything.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 hours ago

Wages have not kept up with productivity and GDP increases since the 1970s.

How about making single income middle class families possible again, so you can have one stay at home parent.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It won't even cover the cost of giving birth. This is some real "how much could a banana cost" energy.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Also, the cost of giving birth will magically jump up by $5,000 as soon as this passes. It was never a function of how much it cost to actually provide that service.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago

$8000 if the mother wants to hold her baby after birth

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 hours ago

monkey paw finger curls You get free healthcare coverage and half minimum wage for each child just for existing. However, you and your child must renounce your citizenship, forfeit your passport, and accept indentured servant status until you can buy back your citizenship after repaying the government child support in full.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 hours ago

Having a kid will cost you much more than 100grand. Giving you 5k to fuck is such an insult.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The type of person who would think 5k for having a kid is a great deal is exactly the type of person conservatives would bitch about having kids and leeching all the other government resources.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago

Coincidentally, it's also the exact type of person conservatives want having kids. They make up the majority of prison labor, military fodder, and wage slaves.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

daycare costs $2k a month? are they training the kids to be astronauts?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 59 minutes ago

To be honest, childcare is expensive. You can only have so many kids per worker, you need to pay rent for a big space, utilities, etc. In a big city it adds up fast. I'm sure some of it goes to some CEO's Yacht, but even at cost it would be expensive.

The reason it's free/cheap in Europe is because it's subsidized from taxes. Same as universities and Healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

No, just extracting the maximum possible amount of profit, it's the American way. And 2k is the low end.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

wild. you'd think as a capitalist country that wants to maximize workforce for cheap labor people would be more incentivized to procreate. yet you have insane costs to childbirth alone, no parental leave for either parent (or a pathetic amount on state level), no child support... and this on top.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Same problem as ever. Short term gain vs long term growth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

$2k gets you Jimmy "Boots" McClusky, on day release from the work farm.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

Wow, two months rent for having a baby. That should fix it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Putin did the same thing, he aware 16k equivalent for having 10+ children .

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 hours ago

It really is a bummer to have such a legitimately retarded man just riding this country into the earths crust all Slim Pickens style.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Free daycare and free healthcare for people under 18 are two social services that would only benefit parents. How about free college tuition moving forward?

This is just a sad attempt making an exclusive version of establishment Dem stimulus checks...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Idk, it seems like US doesn't even have the basic shit going on, any of that is a good news.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Additionally, government supplemented/paid for day care is the only way to pay the teachers fairly. Given places often aim for 4 students:1 teacher, you already have a hard cap of 4*monthly fees for salary for that one teacher. I pay 1.2k/ month, so a teacher can get a max of 4.8k/month if EVERYTHING went to them, which we all know it doesn't due to taxes, administrative staff, utilities, facility fees, etc.

However, if they raise fees, they price people out of a much-needed service at a time when folks typically haven't reached their max earning potential yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

And folks wonder why parents these days are so old. Earning potential to afford daycare in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (4 children)

They just cut head start, slashed medicade(51% of us babies are born on this program), no medicade no pediatric care for your baby either, cut hud, slashed the department of education, blocked student loan forgiveness, are dismantling the aca preventative care mandate, gutting worker protections, canceling child labor laws, laid off 275,000 workers and destroyed their livelihood and tanked the economy ……yea the birth rate is going to plummet. 5k lol doesn’t even cover a fraction of the utter devastation coming to American families from these moronic policies. Who in their right mind would want to bring a child into this racist sexist tech bro oligarchy?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 24 minutes ago

The Headstart cut hurts a lot. I know people that gone to that when they were little and had nothing but good things to say.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

But that is a lot of complicated words, 5k is much easier to make a headline about, and re-elect the same people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

yea the birth rate is going to plummet.

I'm not so sure. Impoverished countries have the highest birth rates. I can imagine the logic of the wealthy 0.001% being "if we make the rest of the country as broke as Somalia, the birth rate will also be as high as Somalia."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 hours ago

And all to fund tax cuts for the wealthy - who don’t need them.

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