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[–] [email protected] 2 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago)

The way she contextualises it is a bit odd, but the actual thing isn't that bad. It's just accommodating him, being aware of his particulars, and helping him over his issues. The gift of a single M&M is unusual, but giving your partner something nice isn't strange. People do similar things all the time in relationships, it's just not thought of as training.

Biggest issue is her framing it that way, because people might either get the wrong idea, or give the wrong idea. Saying she's training him like a dog gives the idea of a lead, like with an actual dog.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

The biggest thing for me is that she's eroding his emotional sovereignty. She's taking covert actions to modulate and decide his mood for him.

Sometimes, when I'm feeling down, I just want to feel that and get through on my own. But she's deciding which of his moods isn't appropriate and is changing his behaviour. If this were out in the open, he would be able to accept or refuse her attempts to cheer him up or divert him. But he (presumably) doesn't even know it's happening. That's not cool.

It sounds fine because it's worded like she's helping him but she's still taking away his autonomy. Just bring it out in the open: "hey, I've noticed, when you're sad or stressed, peanut M&Ms cheer you up. Would you like me to keep some on-hand?" With that, you've alerted them to behaviours about themself and got their consent to "help" them.

If that's the timbre of their interactions, I've got no qualms. But setting the context as "I train abused dogs" brings the mental image to one step above "hiding medicine in a dog treat."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

I mean this simply gets into the ethics of manipulation. Ultimately, it comes down to choosing happiness.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

i remember this episode of Big Bang Theory

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

And How I Met your Mother

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

A man can only dream of having a girl who's so attentive and understanding. She'd make a good mom.

Most of us are so utterly self-consumed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 37 minutes ago

Yeah. Positive reinforcement works across a lot of species.. Just because the OP is used to using it with canines first doesn't make it bad to use on humans We could all use a little pick-up sometimes, just doing fine the M&M's to rover and a milk bone to the partner by mistake.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

Insert "it should've been me" meme here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This is literally how I want to be treated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

somehow I could tell even before you said it

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

That's all fine, it's when she gets naked on the bed with a jar of peanut butter and a spatula that things start getting weird

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

a spatula that stings

Why is she hitting you with the spatula?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Don't yuck the yum

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

My main issue with this is that the way we train dogs is that we train them to be dependant on us. So yeah, she's training him to come out of his shell, maybe, but if it works the same way a dog does he'll only be loyal and listen to her. Especially because anyone else he meets won't treat him like a dog and will expect him to behave like a person without the expectation of rewards which would probably make him more adverse to others

Of course, he's a human being too so it won't go down exactly like that. I'm just saying that from the very first premise the way we train dogs is by training them to be codependant

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Well okay but what do you want her to do then, not treat people like she treats dogs?

if you want a different class just get more girlfriends

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Well, once he opens up she can train him to be more independent. But first he needs the security and wiggle room.

Its not the best approach, but in the mental world you take what you can get.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

That's kind of my point. What part of our whole understanding of how to train dogs involves training them to be more independent? I don't really think there is any. At best you can point to like dog socialization training, but I don't think that makes them more independent, that's just training them to be social when their owners are around.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago

The problem is not the actions. The problem is your mentality. If you're trying to train a human being, that sounds pretty f****** terrible. On the other hand, if you're trying to support for and care for them, it doesn't sound terrible.

Based on the wording, it sounds like the former, but perhaps you're just trying to make your post dramatic for the internet and the actual situation is more like the latter. We don't know, but you do, so act accordingly.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly if we treated each other as well as we treated dogs we'd already be in paradise.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 hours ago

😬

Some dogs.

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