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255 grams per week. That's the short answer to how much meat you can eat without harming the planet. And that only applies to poultry and pork.

Beef cannot be eaten in meaningful quantities without exceeding planetary boundaries, according to an article published by a group of DTU researchers in the journal Nature Food. So says Caroline H. Gebara, postdoc at DTU Sustain and lead author of the study."

Our calculations show that even moderate amounts of red meat in one's diet are incompatible with what the planet can regenerate of resources based on the environmental factors we looked at in the study. However, there are many other diets—including ones with meat—that are both healthy and sustainable," she says.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 4 weeks ago (22 children)

I don't like these kinds of articles because they always have an undertone of making it a matter of personal consumer choice as opposed to systemic change.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

What about people that don't eat pork?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

It's funny to think that you need communism for this kind of figure to mean anything.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

Can we please get moving on the lab grown meats already. This shit is getting depressing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

We really don't need lab grown stuff when the meat alternatives on the market now are already so good

If you haven't tried any yet, I highly recommend Impossible meat, it's virtually indistinguishable from the real thing. Quorn is another great option.

And on a budget, Seitan is also fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I have to disagree with this. Personally, I think every chicken alternative I have tried has been bad, and more expensive. I certainly havent tried everything, but I try what I see readily available to me.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Vegetables aren't so scary, are they?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

I've moved to eating more non-meat than meat and skipping beef at home when I do, but I have never been able to fully convert. I was a pescatarian for almost 1.5 years in my youth and that was mostly doable, but still very tough and never really got easier.

A number of the existing alternatives involve gluten which I can't have anymore (I rather liked seitan when I had it).

I currently have a vegetable farm and, for as much of the year as I can, eat what I grow outside for veg so they're certainly not scary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Not "scary". There's just never enough of them to fill the void inside me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

That’s psychological, the important things for fullness are fat, protein, and fiber. You can get all of those through vegetables, but it’s easy to convince your brain you’re not full. I don’t automatically feel full if I don’t eat hot food, so I have to be a little aware of it on super hot days. But it’s easy enough to tally up what I’ve actually eaten vs what exercise I’ve done and that helps my body realize that it is sated.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

Being vegan now for 6+ years seeing articles and comments about meat is dystopian as fuck. It only took me a week to go from full-blown carnivore to vegan so people struggling with this always gets me.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Well, beef is already so damn expensive that I can't remember the last time we bought it.

Meat-wise It's just been a steady cycle of chicken, turkey, and pork at our house

I had no idea we were so environmentally avant-garde

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

You're not avantgarde. Veganism is a thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

We've cut way back on meat as well, though part of it for me honestly was the environmental impact. The only time we have beef is on special occasions and not at home (so a couple of times a year). Our main proteins are chicken (domestic), seafood, pork (split between domestic and Canadian depending upon what's available), and tofu in probably roughly that order. We have other sources of protein as well, but I think of those as the "mains" as it were.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

Good on you!

When my wife and I started being conscious about our food intake, it wasn't too bad to give up red meat, and shrink meat portions / add veggies.

It took us months of learning / trying new recipes to actually get to the point where we were consistently eating fewer than 14 meat-centric meals a week (lunch/dinner). Once we got comfortable cooking plant based dishes though, we had built up so much momentum that we went from 1 or 2 plant based meals a week to 100% in just a few weeks.

It takes a long time to build up that comfort level, but at some point a switch just flips and the new "normal" is just as easy as what you were used to.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Oh boy, the red meaters are going to downvote the shit out of this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

They've gotta check with best friend's cousins former roommate who runs a "sustainable" slaughter house where they "exclusively" (once a year) source their meat.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)

Meh. I wouldn’t eat chicken these days either. You should see how it’s made. Corporate farming is abhorrent.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm kinda in this camp as well. Barely eat any meat and the meat I do buy is from small local producers where I can meet (hihi) and greet the animals.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

How does that work? Do you never eat meat when you go out?

There aren't a ton of places in the world with a good supply of vegetarian/vegan food AND enough of an ag industry you can go around petting your meat.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Going out I have lots of vegan options so that isn't an issue generally. And am not rigid in my principles, being a bit moderate makes me less of an obnoxious cunt. Easier to cook for, take along on outings etc.

If I hold hard on any principle it is that to not let perfect stand in the way of good. Being able to do 90% ethical consumption I find to be much better than failing to be 100% pure.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

So when you buy meat you try to buy local. but when you are not being an obnoxious cunt outside you just eat any old meat?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago

A majority of restaurants where I live offer at least one vegetarian option on their menu, and commonly also a vegan option (they might be the same)

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