linuxmemes

This whole thread seems to be, primarily, people inventing strawmen and them a comment thread dogpiling them.

We have the "elitist Linux question answerer" and the "average user who is grandmother of 93 years that faints at the sight of terminal text" taking a lot of heat.

Many of stray shots at developers for having the audacity to provide access to the software that they made in their spare time without providing a full UX that compares to IOS.

The "fellow Linux users" who installed Linux 5 years ago, ran into a problem and declared Linux a failed experiment.

The OP isn't even a good meme. It's just ragebait.

The people who post these kind of things are not trying to improve the community. They're concern trolling.

Nobody is "preventing simplification". Anyone is more than welcome to fire up an IDE, clone a project and simplify whatever they feel like. That's how the open source software ecosystem works. If you don't like something then fix it.

You're not a customer, you're a community member. Making demands of other people isn't going to go over well, but it isn't because people are "elitist".

I don’t want things to get simpler to the detriment of the power that Linux has. As long as there’s no regression who cares

I can't say I've ever ran into anyone like this. And the Arch wiki is so newbie friendly, I use it all the time and I don't even use Arch.

man this is a good linux meme, its funny and its real criticism of linux. why were all the linux memes shitty for a while there? why are they better now suddenly?

luckily people seem to be becoming better with this.

linux is also becoming better at being user friendly.

You're good these days until you want to do anything nonstandard.

By use case, the limited amount of things my parents do with their Future Shop still existed era Laptops got them comfortable with Fedora KDE pretty quickly.

Coming to a Linux distro as a Windows power user? I had skill issues.

Hey, I installed Arch btw with Hyprland and I gotta say, the docs are super newbie-friendly. No problems on my end.

Simplification is kind of vague

Just let the user decide

Heres the thing, it strongly depends what you mean by "simplification" and tbh im not sure that would be good for Linux. Im all in favor of adding accessibility features and making desktops more complete but sometimes complexity or being different is good. I love tiling for example, I love how comsic implemets tiling. However tiling isnt naturally intuitive to Windows users, does that mean we need to abandon it in favor of "simplification"? Do we need to abandon the system of distro maintained repos and package managers because "its too complicated"?

I suppose my point is that we should make Linux more accessible by lowering the skill floor to use it but it should not and does not require lowering the skill ceiling for advanced users like me. I love the focus on TUI software and I love the terminal (that doesn't mean GUI software should get less love, it means I would rather not see TUI packages sacrificed).

Furthermore I cannot speak for anyone but myself but I personally try to help people in matrix/discord chats and places like this. However sometimes I will come across someone whos use case doesn't fit Linux. Maybe they need a specific software, maybe they're using niche proprietary hardware that they need, but I personally refuse to suggest Linux to someone if it wont be good for them. If someone tells me "hey I use Linux but I need some software like adobe" I would suggest they reinstall Windows. In addition before I reccomend Linux to someone I tell them that Linux isnt Windows, I make it clear there are downsides that need to be taken with the upsides and sometimes things wont work exactly the same.

TLDR: Im all for people using Linux, however we shouldn't lie to ourselves and others

What do you mean you don't like reading documentation to use the basic functions of my OS?

Why would anyone ever want to use a UI or a mouse?