Well. Anyone got a Discord alternative recommendation if I use it for text messaging? Would rather not upload my ID or face. I looked at Revolt, but they're apparently histed in the UK, which is mandating age verification.
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Actually look at the way Discord works in your network, like all the raw IP addresses and and connections with no clear ownership or human readable name, with dozens of changing connections to get any of it to work. Then go try to ask questions about what is going on and who you're connecting to. Discover that none of it is documented or described anywhere. Then realize that this means no one running Discord is doing so on a fully audited and logged host. You simply cannot be without a bunch of effort. I made it to the 6th layer of whitelisted raw IP addresses, and still nothing worked while trying to connect to Discord in a fully logged and documented network. I am simply unwilling to write a script to annotate that many connections so that all of my logs make sense. I seriously doubt anyone on Discord is doing so, and they certainly lack any understanding of what they are connecting to, why, or the protocols. So the Discord user is telling me "my opsec and privacy awareness is as nonexistent as a pig in a herd running off a cliff, and my system should be assumed compromised with no idea of what might be connected." Everyone else doing it is a garbage excuse. That no one appears to have gotten hurt – has tissue thin merit, but also reveals that the user runs blind in herds while hoping for the best. Such information infers a lot about a person, their depth, accountability, and ethics – in certain scopes.
I tried out matrix recently, it's pretty good.
Fuck is wrong with Mumble?
Same thing that’s wrong with Teamspeak and the other old standby, IRC:
A dated look and lack of shinies like inline GIFs scares the youngsters, the lack of history/persistence drops them and everyone else.
Ah, the many logging bots of IRC. Going to a website or getting daily sized text files DCC’d to you so you could search up if your problem had already been solved, or so someone said they think it was solved on one of those days…
It says information used for age checks will not be stored by Discord or the verification company.
Bullshit. Every time some bitch-ass company says this, 4-5 years later they're like "we were hacked, someone took everyone's photo IDs!"
It won’t… it really won’t. It will be on Donald’s DOGE server, run by Space X.
"And we were hacked because we don't care about security because there's zero accountability, see you at the next hack!"
I find absurd that many political groups including the Pirate Party moved to Discord. People who that claim to be fighting for the rights of user privacy then invite you to join Discord. Looks like they have been assimilated by big tech.
See I still remember when I didn't have to scan my face to get a machine to do something. And that's the way it will always be. For me.
A seatbelt does not stop you from breaking a law. Age verification does. The assumption is that you are lying and trying to break the law and you need to prove why you aren't. This has nothing to do with discord. Be mad at shit garbage UK and Australian regulators.
"Protect the kids!" - always the first thing they use.
Guess I better get my picture of Elon ready /s
Or who is the CEO of Discord?
Tim Discord
Use Mastodon. You can use a server outside of your country. And even if your country attempts to find the operator, 10% of their global turnover of zero is still zero.
Mastodon isn’t really a replacement for discord though.
True. Matrix is more for that. Or possibly SimpleX.
Unfortunately there's not really anything that comes close to Discord.
Revolt is the closest, as it's open source and self-hostable but still lacks many of the features and isn't federated.
~~SimpleX doesn't even have a desktop client.~~ IT DO! Discord is mostly used for gaming.
I do believe it does have a desktop client.
It is not there yet IMHO hard to advise it as singal replacement for now
I think this time next year tho....
It DO! Which one am I mixing it up with then? Briar?
Nope, Briar has one as well.
Possibly. Briar is mobile only as far as i know
good luck trying to get family and friends on that lol
Discord is not really intended for "friends and families", it's for communities.
It's not really for communities either, it's for locking communities into a corporate platform.
...so it's not for communities, it's for communities...?
It's not for the communities, it's for the shareholders-to-come.
Who are the shareholders going to exploit then?
Employees and customers, just like every corporation ever.
"customers" meaning the communities?
Where else do you imagine dividends come from?
My mother and sister is on my homeserver.
Also my SO.
And my every friend.
And we use Jitsi for calls during gaming or whatnot.
jitsi, interesting..
Oh, i ditch family and friends who dont respect my personal data. Though its signal primary for me
yeah, I get it. I told people one year for my bday to download the app for me to get most of my circle on it. most did haha
All it took for me is discord going down for a couple hours a couple of weeks ago. Now about half my friends went to it. All it will take is a small push or down time and they will need their fix somehow lol.