ah, the "i have a gun" loophole
this post was submitted on 17 Apr 2025
547 points (98.8% liked)
politics
23088 readers
4285 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Luigi time
The way powers are divided according to the constitution does not work and it never did because the only constraint was the assumption that the president would have honor and not abuse it... Time for a new one
Well, no, not really. The Constitution was drafted illegally, and basically forced on the population. And the entire purpose of doing all that? To give the federal government more power and control.
This foolish idea that the people who drafted the Constitution did so with any sort of noble ideals is a lie. It was a power grab, plain and simple.
First, they came for the "terrorists", and I said nothing, because I am not a terrorist.
Then, they came for the "illegal immigrants"..
While this is definitely an escalation, and a dangerous one that should be called out and fought. I want to point out that American citizens have had NO due process and NO rights on Guantanamo Bay ever since Bush Jr started disappearing people and flying them over there under the guise of terrorism accusations.
These are US citizens who were abducted, taken out of country, and not even allowed a lawyer or told what their charges are, beaten and tortured - that the courts decided that was all more or less acceptable for, and further that it was also acceptable to be detained indefinitely.
Trump is a symptom, he is not the disease.
https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/court-rules-guantanamo-detainees-are-not-entitled-due-process
The Bush administration abrogated due process, but we might have been able to move past it as a shameful anomaly in our history perpetrated by one out-of-control political faction. But then instead of prosecuting the offenders, or at least disavowing their actions, the Obama administration doubled down on it! It decided that American citizens could be killed on the basis of an accusation. It cemented the destruction of due process as a bipartisan principle of American government.
The Turd Reich might be speed-running the course, but it's just using the tools that past administrations laid out for it.
Yes, he is a symptom, but he's also morphing the disease at breakneck speed to encompass anyone who isn't an able-bodied white male. I'm not fluent in diseases, so I don't know what I'm talking about but it sure as hell seems more than just a symptom.
It's not a "loophole". It's just straight up illegal.
It's not a loophole, it's what MAGA have been humping their Trump waifu pillows about.
This is what America voted for. There wasn't enough Americans who cared to stop it from happening.
The America people knew is now gone forever. Trump is king for life and people on both sides will need to die to set things right. This will not be corrected by voting.
no don't you remember when they said a president cant do anything illegal?
Pretty sure he's not flying the planes.
What they said, was that a president can't be prosecuted for "official acts" as president. Not that everything they do is legal.
That's not what happended.
The Supreme Court refused to prosecute Trump (for a blatantly illegal act) and ruled that he was immune to prosecution for "official acts" which they refused to define.
Then they slow walked the case back to a lower court - deliberately - so the determination was not made until after the election.
Then in a state court, Trump was convicted, but the judge delared there was no penalty "because only a federal court could apply punishment".
Then a couple of days later the DoJ dopped the case because "the president is immune from prosecution".
The Supreme Court refused to prosecute Trump (for a blatantly illegal act) and ruled that he was immune to prosecution for "official acts" which they refused to define.
That's what I said.
Then they slow walked the case back to a lower court - deliberately - so the determination was not made until after the election.
That's not what delayed the case. The special prosecutor had to redefine the charges, in order to comply with the latest ruling, by specifying which ones were not included in Trump's "official duties as president". They were allowed to prosecute him for those...but inevitably ran out of time before they could proceed.
*Then in a state court, Trump was convicted, but the judge delared there was no penalty "because only a federal court could apply punishment".
Then a couple of days later the DoJ dopped the case because "the president is immune from prosecution".*
That's because the election happened, and it is long-standing precedent that a sitting president can't be prosecuted...as long as he's in office. They can and most likely still will, return that case to court, as soon as he's out of office.
lol, any one who didn't already figured it out when the supreme court literally said that trump is above the law in 2024 is just not thinking right.
All forces of enforcement of laws being created by one branch or interpreted by another being basically under the third, which incidentally is the one branch with an all powerful executive means the whole checks and balances was flawed from the get go, and assumed way too much good faith leadership, IMO
The current fascist takeover proves it assumed too much good faith. Not an opinion, but a fact! Who knew giving only one branch the power to actually enforce things was a bad idea?
Right? I mean hindsight is 20/20 and all that, but come on...
Now it means technically you'd need some kind of shared enforcement accountability - but how to make any congress-controlled or judicial-controlled enforcement group big enough to compete with the US army when push comes to shove.... 🤷♂️
It's not a loophole. It is treason. All who enable treason are also guilty of it. The Liberty tree must be watered if we are to survive. Defend The Constitution. Defend Our Republic.
Yeah I was like wtf you mean ‘loophole’?
Just use this one trick to become hitler 2.0! You won’t believe no. 7? Seriously? This is treason, blatantly unconstitutional, and all the gop are at best complicit
Indeed. The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law.
Yeah I was like wtf you mean ‘loophole’?
It’s not really a loop hope if you straight violate the Constitution and get away with it.
Guns aren't allowed on planes. If you sneak one in you'll have a lot of leverage.
Get rich quick with this banking loophole!
…
….
A ski mask and a handgun. Put the money in the bag f**kers!
Unfortunately, it's extremely American. We just thought we were better.
view more: next ›