Firefox. Hardened via Phoenix https://github.com/neuroradiology/Phoenix-for-Firefox?tab=readme-ov-file
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currently using Vivaldi and I love it, but eyeing a switch over to Floorp (fork of Firefox) when uBlock is officially done for in chrome browsers. I'll still need Vivaldi for some things, but I can't live with ads.
Correct answer, all of them... except chrome, edge (same thing), or safari (because fuck apple).
Don't use a catch all browser, have a browser for a specific task and use different ones.
I’m using DuckDuckGo without issues. I really like how it’s built. You can watch youtube ideos through a filter that blocks out ads. It’s amazing. I love it so much. I switched over to DuckDuckGo just recently. I think this might be my favourite. I doubled down and got adguard too.
I’m curious to test other browsers too though. There’s ones mentioned here I’ve heard good things about, like Zen and librewolf.
As stated by @[email protected] Firefox or a derivative. I use Firefox Developer Edition and have learned how to turn off all of the spying crap. Otherwise, I'll use LibreWolf every once in a while.
There is only one answer, Firefox or a derivative. Anything else is a vote for a closed commercial web.
LibreWolf up in this piece
Some websites only work with Chromium (yes they suck), when that happens you would need Vivaldi, or maybe Ungoogled Chomium
Yes or sometimes it is just that the Firefox version is too old or your privacy setting too strict. So updating to latest version and switching to a new clean standard profile can help.
Firefox is spying on you, so a derivative is the only option. I also user Ungoogled Chromium because it's really nice and works well after a couple of tweaks
Why do you think Firefox is spying on you any more then any of the other major browsers? Turn off all of the sponored content.
Because they said so in their updated ToS. They might not be as bad as Google but they're not saints
That is not what they said. They said operationally nothing is changing. However, they are basically in-part ad supported and so with that comes some strings. All of this can probably be configued out but it is a pain.
For me, hard call. Fragmenting into maybe better browsers reduces Firefox popularity and that impacts wheather web developers will test against anything but Chrome. When that happens these other browsers become irrelevent. So using other browers has a consequence.
Regardless, the fact is unless you're going through the code, you're not sure if the tracking and telemetry is really disabled. LibreWolf does that for me, so I use it over plain Firefox
I'm loving zen browser so far, made the switch about a month ago, is firefox but with a actually great ui, a feel extra features and good customization
I'm enjoying Zen browser in general but still facing several issues with it from time to time. Nothing major, just small nuisanses here and there.
I use it alongside Vivaldi since I often have to be logged in into two different sessions for the same site and it's just easier to have two browsers for that. Vivaldi is a lot more stable and so I use it as the main browser - but everytime it updates I need to modify a JS file to tweak something in the UI to make it the way I like it to be. When using vertical tabs + tab groups + two layers of tabs (one sidebar showing the tab groups and a second sidebar showing the tabs inside the selected group), the maximum tab width is applied to both sidebars together instead of individually, so I modify the JS file to double that max width. I've automated it by now but it still annoys me that I keep having to do this.
But I think Vivaldi is probably the only browser that even has the ability to show tabs in that way, so I can't complain that much.
You got me curious about the issues that you may have with zen, is true that i haven't use it for that long of a time but so far so good, so i would love to know what i may run into in the future
Not OP, but two issues I've encountered:
- No DRM means some streaming sites don't work. But I can easily hop over to another browser for that
- There is no global zoom to increase webpage size on all websites. This can be resolved by installing an extension
Otherwise, Zen has been amazing. I fully switched from Firefox 5 months ago, no regrets
Thanks, but the drm has worked for me just like normal firefox does, i've been using it to watch max and amazon prime since i've made the switch, something that i couldn't get to work on qutebrowser for example
librewolf or palemoon (for firefox before the webextensions apocalypse)
Floorp has been good to me.
Ironfox and occasionally when it don't work, Librewolf does.
I can vouch for Vivaldi (as recommended by the article). Its pretty good.
Haven't tried Librewolf yet, still using good old Firefox
I have used Vivaldi as my main browser pretty much since the initial release and it's great.
Yup It works well, respects it users, and is very handy when you need a Chromium browser
And as someone who never closes tabs, I love their tab management, from organization to memory.
i use Librewolf, it looks and feels exactly like Firefox