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The two progressive lawmakers have addressed massive crowds in solidly red states including Idaho and Utah in recent days, as party of the national Fighting Oligarchy Tour.

A survey taken by Harvard's Center for American Political Studies and Harris between April 9-10 found that 72% of Democratic voters supported politicians like Sanders (I-Vt.) and Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), "who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and 'fight harder'," rather than leaders who are willing to "compromise" with President Donald Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Right: Genocide ALL undesirables without due process.

Left: Genocide nobody without due process.

Centrist: Clearly there is middle ground. So, lets genocide some people without due process.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can't i just have a little genocide? As a treat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Well since you asked so nicely and as a centrist I’m so conflict averse I prioritize harmony over any sort of moral compass then yes, have as much as you want. Just stay polite or I’ll gently chastise you and then give in to you anyway.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

72% of Democrats Want Party to Abandon Centrist Approach to Trump

Party: But who will help us become exponentially richer then?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Mother fuckers just play the fucking market if you're so morally backrupt. Even when you're selling us out you fucking take the most low ball barely consequential amount to flush millions of peoples lives down the drain.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

AOC and Sanders ARE the centrists. That’s the key to understanding the issue here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sanders?... Maybe. AOC... No freaking way.

You want a centrist that Dems should listen to? See Adam Frisch in my state. Almost beat Boebert TWICE in her home county.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

They are in the exact center of the policial spectrum. I realize that is difficult to understand for some folks, but I will explain it as best as I can. AOC is approximately exactly the midpoint between me and Trump. That is what the political spectrum means.

They are obviously among the most leftist elected politicians in the US, but that’s not saying much. We need to get our brains out of this mainstream media cesspool of “centrist” or “moderate” meaning “not a right wing extremist”.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately in the situation, almost only counts in hand grenades and horseshoes... Lauren boebert is just...... Well it shouldn't be hard to beat someone that gave a God damn hand job at a theater show in polite company regardless of their political affiliation. Dude's got to figure out a better way to get his message across to people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. I know she's terrible. It's not the hand job that I'm against, she's terrible as a congress critter. My point is, his message did land in a solid red district. She moved to the eastern side of the state to keep her seat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Honestly, the hand job controversy seemed a little slut shamey to me.

Like, sure, it was wrong to do that in a public place but considering the scandals of most republicans that was almost quaint.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Billionaires don't deserve a seat at the table.

We wouldn't let any other group of 3000 people contort our entire society to their will.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Then they will freaking lose and deserve it. They surveyed Democratic voters. You want reality? You lost to the worst candidate in the history of voting in this country. WAKE THE HELL UP!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

If 72% of Democrats want to drop centrist approach then go vote for a progressive in the primaries you bunch of non-voting assholes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The last time they even had primaries was 2016 and we all saw what happened then. Voters have had no choice for a long ass time.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

WTF are you talking about? We had primaries just last year.

https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/2024-state-primary-election-dates

That's the problem with progressives and democrats, they never seem to remember that there are other primaries other than presidential that actually do matter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Kamala was literally NOT chosen in a primary, she got chosen because of being vice president. Additionally, we all saw what they did in 2016 so you are arguing in extremely bad faith.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What they're saying is that the president isn't the only election and progressives and those further left rarely running for other offices is the problem. You don't just wake up one morning and decide to primary the top party choice with little to no experience and win. You build up, Bernie didn't just run for the nomination, he had a long record of successfully winning races in VT and was a known figure.

There are primaries and elections for school board, mayors elections, governor, state offices, state house and senate, congress, etc. This is where you build a movement, not president. The fact the the US Greens only trot out a presidential candidate every 4 years is how you know they're a spoiler and not a serious party. If they were we'd have greens running for all those other elections all the time, but they don't. We need a river of actual leftist politicians and we have like a handful of drops in a bucket.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Absolutely and at least progressive groups are not full of these Internet progressives and tankies and are actually doing the work and not just down voting on Internet forums.

Honestly, in this past primary, I saw a lot more progressive candidates at the house/Senate and state, which is extremely nice to see in my decades of voting and only donating to progressive groups.

Change is coming, it's been slow but it's coming.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The DNC fucked Bernie in 16 for Hillary... forgive me if I don't the have Faith in their abilitie to read the god-damned room... being said by a guy who did vote for Harris and would have voted for literally anyone but this situation....the DNC needs to listen to the people, not use superdelegates to ensure the proper "sanctioned" candidates are on the ballot.

We WANT change...but also fuck the non voting idiots....unless it really was election tampering by Elon and Putin(again)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Agree with you there. It really is kind of shocking to see the Democratic primary being the least democratic when compared with the Republican primary that's full of fascists.

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