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The two progressive lawmakers have addressed massive crowds in solidly red states including Idaho and Utah in recent days, as party of the national Fighting Oligarchy Tour.

A survey taken by Harvard's Center for American Political Studies and Harris between April 9-10 found that 72% of Democratic voters supported politicians like Sanders (I-Vt.) and Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), "who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and 'fight harder'," rather than leaders who are willing to "compromise" with President Donald Trump.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

WTF are you talking about? We had primaries just last year.

https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/2024-state-primary-election-dates

That's the problem with progressives and democrats, they never seem to remember that there are other primaries other than presidential that actually do matter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Kamala was literally NOT chosen in a primary, she got chosen because of being vice president. Additionally, we all saw what they did in 2016 so you are arguing in extremely bad faith.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What they're saying is that the president isn't the only election and progressives and those further left rarely running for other offices is the problem. You don't just wake up one morning and decide to primary the top party choice with little to no experience and win. You build up, Bernie didn't just run for the nomination, he had a long record of successfully winning races in VT and was a known figure.

There are primaries and elections for school board, mayors elections, governor, state offices, state house and senate, congress, etc. This is where you build a movement, not president. The fact the the US Greens only trot out a presidential candidate every 4 years is how you know they're a spoiler and not a serious party. If they were we'd have greens running for all those other elections all the time, but they don't. We need a river of actual leftist politicians and we have like a handful of drops in a bucket.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Absolutely and at least progressive groups are not full of these Internet progressives and tankies and are actually doing the work and not just down voting on Internet forums.

Honestly, in this past primary, I saw a lot more progressive candidates at the house/Senate and state, which is extremely nice to see in my decades of voting and only donating to progressive groups.

Change is coming, it's been slow but it's coming.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The DNC fucked Bernie in 16 for Hillary... forgive me if I don't the have Faith in their abilitie to read the god-damned room... being said by a guy who did vote for Harris and would have voted for literally anyone but this situation....the DNC needs to listen to the people, not use superdelegates to ensure the proper "sanctioned" candidates are on the ballot.

We WANT change...but also fuck the non voting idiots....unless it really was election tampering by Elon and Putin(again)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Agree with you there. It really is kind of shocking to see the Democratic primary being the least democratic when compared with the Republican primary that's full of fascists.