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US Vice President JD Vance has called on European states to show greater independence, urging them not to be US "vassals." He also said EU governments could have done more to oppose Washington over the Iraq War.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (5 children)

What exactly could Europe have done to stop the Bush administration from invading Iraq on the completely unfounded pretense that Saddam Hussein had WMD's?

Bake a cake with 'Please don't!' Written on it?

But it's a useful reminder from the couch fucker. Should Trump call for aid when attempting to overthrow Canada/Greenland/Panama/Iran the Europeans better say 'No'. I bet that's totally not gonna let Republicans lose their shit and cry, bitch and moan like there's no tomorrow.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, we should have ended our ties to the US and our infrastructural dependency back then.

Back then was one of the few moments I was proud about a german politician, when Schröder said "No".

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago (2 children)

…what…?

Seriously: what the fuck? There was - at best - scant official support in Europe for the war, and public support was nearly nonexistent. The fuck is he on about.

Go home and fuck your loveseat, heterosectional.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A few European countries sent troops, but more importantly there was not a peep from Europe about, you know, not creating another refugee crisis in their backyard. He said oppose, not not support. Europe could've done more to oppose the Iraq war.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This is interesting, today we know that a conflict in the middle east will cause a large spike in refugees/migrants to the EU, back when the Iraq war started, was that not the case?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

To be fair to the EU, republicans could have done more before it even arrived at the feet of the EU

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Maybe they can do more against the next war your pal the Orange turd is in the process of starting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Fuck him, but yes.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (5 children)

respectfully i hope jd vance suffers permanent 24/7 diarrhea from all orifices

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Constant runny eyeliner.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

but think of the couches.

lets go with constipation. Permanent. constipation.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Still from all orifices though, right? That would finally shut him up

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Respectfully.

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

This seems like an attempt to undermine NATO. The only time article 5 has been used was after 9/11.

~~By saying Europe had a choice and should have resisted, he lays the foundation for the US to not follow through on their NATO commitments.~~

Edit: The commenter below is right, the article 5 was used for Afghanistan, not Iraq. My whole argument is thus invalid

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Article five wasn't used in Iraq, only Afghanistan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes but Europe was under no obligation to support the US in the Iraq war since it had nothing to do with NATO.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not like that matters to the people this propaganda is targeting.

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