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US Vice President JD Vance has called on European states to show greater independence, urging them not to be US "vassals." He also said EU governments could have done more to oppose Washington over the Iraq War.

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This seems like an attempt to undermine NATO. The only time article 5 has been used was after 9/11.

~~By saying Europe had a choice and should have resisted, he lays the foundation for the US to not follow through on their NATO commitments.~~

Edit: The commenter below is right, the article 5 was used for Afghanistan, not Iraq. My whole argument is thus invalid

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Article five wasn't used in Iraq, only Afghanistan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes but Europe was under no obligation to support the US in the Iraq war since it had nothing to do with NATO.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not like that matters to the people this propaganda is targeting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Still a really important correction imo