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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago

This guy’s already dead.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Court: issues order

Trump Admin: flat out says they will not follow the orders

Court: I don't think the admin is following my orders.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

the courts need to form a militaristic arm to carry out their needs.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

Give them two weeks to do something. We'll see, then what if they don't provide? Another 2 weeks? They will just say he is dead or died in transit and it's out of their hands. Then what happens? Let me guess.

Fucking nothing.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 5 days ago (5 children)

This whole case has collapsed into a handful of choices:

  1. Judge doesn't declare the Trump admin in Contempt of Court (i.e. does nothing). This sets precedent that Trump's administration enjoys full immunity from the judiciary, officially turning the US into a dictatorship. This is what has been happening for weeks and remains by far the most likely scenario.
  2. Judge declares Trump in Contempt of Court, but is unable to enforce it. This is equivalent to scenario 1.
  3. Judge declares the Trump admin in Contempt of Court and deputizes state police to enforce the ruling and arrest, if not Trump, at least some officials. This would be legal and remains the only constitutional solution, but would almost certainly trigger an armed response from the regime. Democracy doesn't go down without a fight, but the end result is uncertain.
  4. Pro-democracy factions use illegal/violent means to force Trump to comply (military coup, sudden Luigi's Mansion remake, etc.). However it would seem that the masks fell off and despite decades of propaganda to the contrary, literally not a single living American is willing to put their life on the line to protect Democracy.
[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The administration will just apply for an appeal to the decision - 6 months - then if it is approved it goes to a one man Supreme Court ruling (18 months), then they appeal again (12 months) and it goes to the full bench (24 months) who will declare its now outside the scope of action.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Because they made the poor and uneducated afraid. That's why all the guns. Fear of that which they do not understand. They were fed endless propaganda about how Trump cares for the working class. Republican Corporate media let them keep their guns as long as they had an enemy to point them at that wasn't them. Keep them scared and afraid of their allies, their fellow working class.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

1a. Judge goes on a Holiday in Cambodia, so to speak, and is replaced. See option 1.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well now I've gotta listen to some Dead Kennedys so thanks

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)
  1. Admin complies
  2. Abrego suddenly ends up dead during that time. Essentially means admin would be complying.
[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

There's a serious chance they'll have the guy killed to get the judge off their back without having to be seen backing down, and to show judges what happens when they try to challenge the regime on a deportation case.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Which would definitely be contempt of court when the whole thing leaks because they added another goddamned reporter to the signal conversation about it

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

The Orange Turd is a criminal. I would expect nothing less from him.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter, they'll ignore that too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

They need to have the bailiff already standing behind the regime lawyers right when it's declared.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago

I’ve got an idea! Let’s sit around jerking each other off for two weeks while we build a case that Trump will just ignore anyways! Who’s with me (besides the Court)???

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 193 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is precisely what contempt is for.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How can they be found in contempt when they were never out of contempt.

They don't care what judges say. The judges are just NOW finding that out?

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 5 days ago (4 children)

That’s what the article states. She’s mandating two weeks of intense discovery, which will lead to contempt of court if they cannot prove they have done everything in their power to return him.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Lot of shit gon happen in a fortnight.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The death of several innocent prisoners, for example

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Nothing's gonna happen. Stop dreaming.

Trump is above justice and so are his billionaire goons. Justice is only for pariahs.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Yeah, why don't we all just roll over and die at their feet.

I get the sentiment but we really don't need a Debbie Downer.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe you replied to the wrong person? Maybe you misunderstood? When I said "shit", I meant shit.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I fear Trump will just ask his buddy Bukele to kill the guy, out of sheer spite.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago

"Way ahead of you, boss."

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Like people are going to run around, building stuff and doing dances? I don't know, I don't play it...

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 days ago

They obviously aren't, and have defied every court at every turn when presented with lawful orders in this matter.

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