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What Kinds of Data do AI Chatbots Collect? (lemmy.ml)
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A chart titled "What Kind of Data Do AI Chatbots Collect?" lists and compares seven AI chatbots—Gemini, Claude, CoPilot, Deepseek, ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Grok—based on the types and number of data points they collect as of February 2025. The categories of data include: Contact Info, Location, Contacts, User Content, History, Identifiers, Diagnostics, Usage Data, Purchases, Other Data.

  • Gemini: Collects all 10 data types; highest total at 22 data points
  • Claude: Collects 7 types; 13 data points
  • CoPilot: Collects 7 types; 12 data points
  • Deepseek: Collects 6 types; 11 data points
  • ChatGPT: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
  • Perplexity: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
  • Grok: Collects 4 types; 7 data points
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[–] lemmycloud666@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Duck.ai

[–] krnl386@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wow, it’s a whole new level of f*cked up when Zuck collects more data than the Winnie the Pooh (DeepSeek). 😳

[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The idea that US apps are somehow better than Chinese apps when it comes to collecting and selling user data is complete utter propaganda.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don't use either. Until Trump, I still considered CCP spyware more dangerous because they would be collecting info that could be used to blackmail US politicians and businesses. Now, it's a coin flip. In either case, use EU or FOSS apps whenever possible.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Gemini: "Other Data"

Like, what's fucking left!?

[–] Gadg8eer@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The Broligarchy: "Everything."

Me: Squints Pours glowing demon tanning lotion on ground

Trump: "You dare dispute my rule?! And you would have these... mongrels... come here to die?"

Open Source Metaverse online. Launching Anti-StarLink missiles...

Warning. FOSS Metaverse alternative launch detected.

The Broligarchy: "This was not how it was supposed to be..."

Me: "Times change. But war, war never changes."

...

"We will never be slaves. But we WILL be online. For the Open Source Metaverse we deserve!"

Anyway, hopefully that's the real future in some sense. The metaverse is, technologically, in a state resembling 1995's World Wide Web. We can stop the changes that made social media happen the first time, but that comes at a grave cost of it's own... Zero tolerance for interference with the FOSS paradigm. This means no censorship even for the most vile of content, and no government authority over online activity ever again. It also means we have less than 150 years to become immortal because having children inherently puts kids at risk of sexual exploitation, so everyone - literally everyone - must be made infertile permanently to make that impossible.

Life extension is actually plausible, and omnispermicide would make denying it a war crime. That is the only fix I can see, but all of you would never pay it. That is why I stopped writing; every goddamn story and society at large championed "anti-escapism" in 2017 and onwards, and I will NEVER forgive you all for that. Fuck reality. I Have No Truth and I Must Dream. I want to die because I hate you all.

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

anyone whos competent in the matter: what about the french competition chat.mistral.ai

[–] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

+1 for Mistral, they were the first (or one of the first) Apache open source licensed models. I run Mistral-7B and variant fine tunes locally, and they've always been really high quality overall. Mistral-Medium packed a punch (mid-size obviously) but it definitely competes with the big ones at least.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Almost none of this data is possible to collect when using Tor Browser

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope, these services almost always require user login, eventually tied to cell number (ie non disposable) and associate user content and other data points with account. Nonetheless user prompts are always collected. How they're used is a good question.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Use a third party API. Pay with monero.

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes it is possible to create disposable-isque api keys for different uses. The monetary cost is the cost of privacy and of not having hardware to run things locally.

If you have reliable privacy friendly api vendor suggestions then do share. While I do not need such services now, it can a good future reference.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

I think I only used chatgpt once to play around, and it was one of those. I dont remember the name, sorry

[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Anyone has these data from Mistral, HuggingChat and MetaAI ? Would be nice to add them too

Edit : Leo from brave would be great to compare too

[–] scintilla@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Am I missing something? What do the numbers mean in relation to the type? Sub types?

[–] caoimhinr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's labeled "Unique data points". See the number 2 - Usage Data for Gemini, there's an arrow with label there.

[–] scintilla@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Thank you I totally missed that.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

perhaps it's the limit imof each data type?!

gemini harvests only your first four cobtacts, your last two locations, and so on.

how does one defeat that? have fewer than four friends and don't go out!

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Ask people for their phone number to add to your contacts and give them your phone for a day

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Note this is if you use their apps. Not the api. Not through another app.

[–] will_a113@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not that we have any real info about who collects/uses what when you use the API

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah we do, they list it in privacy policies. Many of these they can't really collect even if they wanted to

[–] demunted@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Who TF using Grok.

[–] standarduser@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most of my workforce strangely enough. They claim it’s the best for them in terms of mathematics, but I can’t find that to be a good reason.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Isn't deepseek better for that?

[–] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

In my experience it depends on the math. Every model seems to have different strengths based on a wide berth of prompts and information.

[–] standarduser@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

That’s what I’m saying!

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 12 points 1 month ago

Fascists. Why?

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