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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

All this trouble just to be able to use a nosy keyboard and covertly watch porn in public.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I've thought about doing this too, with a very similar setup.

Larger FOV for your screen than anything else portable. Potentially more power efficient too, as you don't blast light everywhere to get a tiny bit into an eye. Can be used in very bright conditions, like outdoors on a bright summer day, without issues. More comfortable to use in some other orientations


I use a split ergo keyboard with my laptop when lying back in a recliner or on a couch, lets my hands not be jammed in front of me and obstructing my views of the screen, but an HMD is even more flexible.

Laptops have limited hardware customizability, so it's really the only route other than carrying a portable display if you want more control over the PC hardware. Want a 100Wh battery or larger? Non-soldered memory and more of it? More expansion ports or storage slots? Moving the hot-and-noisy stuff beneath the table instead of beneath your hands? For the form factor: have airflow vents that aren't on the bottom and covered up when on a lap (ironically, "laptop"), chest, couch, or bed? If you're a woman and want to use the thing on your belly while lying down, not having your breasts in between your eyes and the screen? For anyone, not having their hands in the way?

Laptops have a lot of limitations as to input devices. Do you want a Trackpoint? You're limited to a very few models of laptop. Trackball? Few laptops and it has to be very small. A trackpad with three physical buttons? Very few laptops on offer make that an option. Particular about your keyboard layout? If you're getting external hardware, there's a cornucopia of options, and you can mix and match as you'd like. Yeah, you can also do this with laptops and a stand and a docking station and external hardware, if you're aiming for use at a particular desk, but that's not really suitable for a couch, say.

The privacy is nice -- and I don't think that that reasonably can be reduced to looking at porn, which I assume most people aren't going to want to do in public anyway, for obvious reasons. I can throw a password list up onscreen, don't need to deal with those inane "hide your password as you type it" things that try to mitigate privacy issues with people using computers in public places.

Problem is that at least today, wearing HMDs is not as comfortable and sharp as looking at a display. Easy to get something slightly blurry if it's not perfectly aligned. My HMD tends to fog up, though the Xreal thing in the article has more airflow and it's probably less of an issue. Also, VR goggles and headphones tend to compete for the same spot around the ears


circumaural headphones need to seal there, so you may need to accept whatever sound, if any, the HMD can provide. You have less awareness of your surroundings, which matters in some situations.

A lot of work has gone into making laptops particularly low power, and if you build your own system, some of that is on you, to pay attention to component power consumption.

Also, I couldn't find a way to get some kind of external battery to be treated by Linux as a power_supply class device, which lets Linux do things like automatically hibernate when power gets critical and use nice in-UI reporting of low battery. On the power source side, USB PD power banks, which it would seem would be a good solution, technically have the ability to report a battery level but AFAICT do not actually do this, or even present themselves as visible devices on the USB tree. You could probably work something up yourself with a modular battery bank


at the very least, even if Linux can't use it as a power_supply device, NUT can be rigged up to treat some hardware that you can put on a modular battery bank as a UPS, which accomplishes some of the same stuff, like auto-shutdown. And a modular battery bank is pretty user-configurable. But...that's not necessarily all that portable.

I would definitely do this instead of a laptop if they managed to get HMDs to the point where I'd be willing to dump my displays and go all HMDs. We aren't there yet, though.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Or, and hear me out, I could just carry a single device with a charging cable that weighs less than 5lbs that does all of that without all of the cables and BS associated with trying to be a tech edgelord for clicks. Hell, if that device is a Framework is will probably be way more repairable than that mini PC and probably super fragile AR glasses as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'm pretty sure that the Xreal glasses have a carrying case, based on when I was looking at them. I carry a pair of headphones with my laptop, and they come with one. Does require some volume in a backpack or bag, though.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This article reads like satire... it's sentence after sentence of "and I did it using one of the [best office chairs]" which is a link to some review by themselves. Every bit mentioned had an affiliate link and there wasn't an actual review of what the experience (software, setup, visual fidelity) is like??

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (6 children)

The only thing that really attracts me about these glasses is that you could hold your head up instead of looking down all the time at a laptop or a portable monitor. But most of the time I need more than one display, while the glasses only offer a single, expensive, fairly low resolution screen. I also wonder what it does to your eyes to use this for long periods of time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Really. That's a bummer. if there is an advantage to the glasses it should be that you can have as many displays going as you'd want.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Wait I saw this on the game Heavy Rain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

US version with an i7 is $900.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A guy at work asked if he could use some similar pair of AR glasses at work and was rejected because the companion app for it required to always be running as elevated in windows. Was a solid no there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Depends the type. Some are essentially just a monitor.

[–] [email protected] 171 points 6 days ago (3 children)

"My whole desk setup now easily fits into a backpack and I can take it anywhere"

Man, I guess I've been fooled using laptops this entire time. IM SO STUPID

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

You're not wrong but this is a distinctly different experience. Some these AR glasses allow you to have multiple giant virtual displays instead of the tiny ~14 inch one. Hence the reference to a "desk setup".

Although I would argue that it would make more sense just to plug the glasses into a laptop.

But also you can use your preferred keyboard and mouse (with more space for the mouse).

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The point is that this is a fake assertion to push a product.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Whats a fake assertion? This thing doesn't need to completely revolutionize the industry or replace existing products completely to be viable and useful for some. I personally think it's a neat idea even though I have zero use for a portable device outside of my phone. I seriously can't comprehend why people seem to be getting outraged in the comments here over something that has zero effect on them or their life whether it exists or not.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I can work at my desk using only my laptop. Do I want to, and is it my actual setup? No, and no. My laptop is plugged into my ultra wide screen, my mechanical keyboard and my mouse. That's what he meant, and that's what I found interesting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

How is it fake?

[–] [email protected] 109 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

He addresses this by saying a laptop doesn't allow you to replace components, doesn't have mechanical keyboard and there's no ultra wide support.

The funny thing is, this device he's using doesn't allow you to replace components either. And there are 21:9 laptops and mechanical keyboards available.

Seemed like he's trying to reverse-engineer his way into justifying a use case for it, but just failed.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I mean if it did multiple virtual monitors the way vr headsets can I could see this being worth it...

Yeah they make laptop monitors but no ones gonna carry two 24" panels and a 30" ultrawide in their pocket.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I read that as well, and it addresses none of that. Also, you can replace components on a lot of laptops, and ALL components on a Framework. This is why they are so sought after.

Whoever wrote this is making a bad faith argument and throwing an ignorant assertion out to serve a specific purpose, which...is not stated 🤣

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, you can swap more on a framework laptop than the mini PC he's using.

However glasses, a mini PC, keyboard and battery is smaller than a laptop. Using whatever keyboard you want instead of what came with the laptop for forever is also nice.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago

Here, follow this affiliate link to this overpriced portable machine.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Oh look, another Tom's guide advertorial masking as original content...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Before the sale when Igor still wrote for them, Tom's was pretty well respected as was Anand.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I also suspect ArsTechnica of running sponsored AI stories these days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I would quite honestly be surprised, they have been vocal in the past about having no such thing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

They're all doing it. Most tech these days just isn't exciting enough to attract attention without them hyping it.

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