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This is quite recent but I've been browsing Lemmy a bunch lately and quite often I see extreme grammatical errors.

I'm not talking about like, incorrect stylistic choices between commas and dashes, or an improper use of ellipses or missing commas or incorrect use of apostrophes in its/it's or in multiple posessive articles or just plain typos or any nitpicky grammar nazi shit like that, but just basic spelling specifically.

It's one thing when you can't spell some pretty uncommon words and you're too lazy to look it up and/or use autocorrect, but it's a completely different league to misspell very basic words, very recently I saw someone spell "extreme" as "extream" which is just kind of baffling, I actually can't even imagine how one would make such a mistake?

And it's not been an isolated thing either, I've seen several instances like that lately.

Am I going crazy? Is it just me?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fuck the people who get simple words wrong. Our language is degrading as tikok and video shorts are on the rise and attention spans decline.

Soon enough people won't have the attention span to even write anymore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I switched to Heliboard and the autocorrect just isn't as good as gboard. It's worth it for me for the privacy but I have to constantly reread my messages

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're not crazy. Nobody wants their grammar correcting; they lash out and call people who do that "grammar nazis" instead of thanking them for helping them improve. So they get to post whatever they like, and of course as more people see stuff spelt incorrectly they assume that's correct and use those errors themselves, but intentionally. And of course the dictionary writers realise they are descriptive, not proscriptive, so the argument "the dictionary says..." is voided.

Autocorrect is OK to an extent but it's not smart enough yet to understand what people are actually saying. So it gets switched off.

Also it is worth mentioning that English is a complex language with many inconsistencies. "extream" is incorrect, but "stream" isn't, and that "eam/eme" is pronounced the same way. So "extream" is at least understandable. It's similar to "ect" instead of "etc", which is commonly mispronounced as "ek-setera" so you can see why people think the C is after the E.

I used to try to help people a lot but just got a whole load of abuse back. These days I only query something if I genuinely can't grok what they're trying to say. Or I just ignore it. If the question is so badly garbled that I can't understand it I just assume they won't be able to understand may answer, which will probably be quite detailed.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

wu7 u m34n, m8? 4lw4y5 b33n l1k3 d15. /s

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Gen alpha hasn't really been taught how to spell and they think grammar is stupid.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I make more spelling mistakes when autocorrect is on than when it's off (and every little update to the os seems to re-enable it 😬) because it constantly wants to change words that were spelled correctly, to a different word that doesn't fit the context.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I got perfect scores in english and grammar throughout highschool, passed the ap test, perfect scores on english portions of sap/act, passed the ap test, therefore didn't do any english/writing courses in college. (Gotten out of practice, when it comes to the correct way to type) I technically learned english 2nd and didn'tunderstand it in kindergarden so my internal logic has always been that I've proven myself and I don't need to spell or use grammar correctly anymore.

I've already proven objectively that I have a firm grasp on the english language, so now I just let the errors fly. The logic is terrible, but i'll go with whatever justifies my actions lol. People used to make fun of how I speakx so Id show them my grades and ask them if they are sure that they are the one speaking English correctly.

Also theres fr no reason to police spelling/grammar if the points gets across, being concise and clear is more important always.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

My spelling and grammar are a lot worse when I type on my phone. I also accidentally a word.

I don't bother with correcting it since I don't care.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I think that it's mostly just Lemmy being less dominated by native English speakers. Many of those mistakes that seem baffling "make sense" in some other languages

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Almost 10 years ago I began to see this trend online and at work where people were misspelling 'separate' as 'seperate' and I am still irrationally angered by it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Increased reliance on touch screen devices with dodgy autocorrect probably accounts for a good chunk of it.

I know it is not uncommon for me to have to go back and edit something I wrote from my phone after I submit it because I didn't see the autocorrect mistake before hitting send.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

Who THE FUCK cares?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I, mean its only. Natural that weerd thangs criep into comments here und their

But it's been something increasing over time. Some of it is people just not paying attention, some of it is them relying on autocorrect and not spending the time to check what gets autoed. But, a lot of it is that people can't spell for shit, and don't care that they can't.

And, to be fair, as long as the basic idea of what you're saying gets across, how much effort is required? In your example, extreme vs extream, while one is correct, they both sound the same, and they even read the same. So if a person is just approximating the sound of the word, and never ran across it, do they have an obligation to go looking?

Now, obviously, extreme would be an unusual word to never have seen in print since it was over used in marketing for a long time. I'd expect xtreme to be the misspelling to show up. But even with a word that over saturated, does it matter?

I say no, it doesn't really matter. Yeah, I'd still offer someone the correct spelling, but that's just as a point of conversation rather than any obligation they have to spend their time and energy on vocabulary and/or spelling. As long as they aren't giving me shit for having put in time and effort into mine, and it's close enough to guess; or they're willing to communicate about that they meant if it isn't easy to guess.

For real, it does make my brain scream at me when I run across it. But that's my problem, not theirs.

Seriously, not everyone cares enough to edit it up. Why should they?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

Spelling? I'm not worried about spelling when it's been acceptable to murder grammar in public for 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Most of my stupid spelling mistakes, missing words, and other typing errors are because I developed the terrible habit of proofreading only in the instant between hitting the post button and the subsequent UI refresh. The better my lemmy host is running, the lower the readability of what I've posted.

I've also noticed that muscle memory does some strange stuff to my typing. Like in the first sentence of this comment I typed "instance" rather than "instant." I meant instant but, since I work with AWS 5 days a week, my fingers autopiloted instance because I type it much more often.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i typo a lot on mobile because small phone and i tap to text and not swipe gesture.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Typos aren't what I was talking about, but your autocorrect should take care of it, at least on gboard. I also type everything on mobile. I don't browse Lemmy on my desktop at all.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

originally read the title as "people's spending" so I uh.. I guess we should add reading comprehension to the list of things people (me) are bad at

imo some of the drivers for today's terrible grammar and spelling stem from a "rush to reply" e.g. people commenting "frist!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I make a ton of stupid spelling mistakes just because of typing on mobile 99% of the time. For some reason I CONSTANTLY miss the keys I'm looking for, or manage to press them in the wrong order somehow; swapping Ns with Ms, T with Y, R>T, B>N, inserting spaces too early, doubling up characters.

If i nevsr look up and jus tkeep typing, I end of with a garbled mess just liek this sentence is.

This can get much worse if I use the next word suggestions. I'll spot the suggestion I want, but continue to press the next letter; this changes what's being suggested, or just moves it to a different position (centered vs the two options to the side) but I still press where I first saw it which is now a totally different suggestion...

Lots and lots and lots of proof-reading. And I STILL fuck it up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah it's so dumb, like we have amazing technology, yet the software is fucking terrible.

For example with most keyboard you can have a heat map of where you hit each button. So you can clearly see where the buttons should most comfortable be. However I've never seen any keyboard that could ever make use of that data to morph the shape of the buttons to my patterns. It seems so obvious, otherwise why collect that data?

Instead we keep making the same shitty keyboard over and over again. And big companies monitor all our keypresses because number must go up. And put dumb ass AI powered autocorrect that are trained on all data ever instead of my personal data. I swear that thing "corrects" the right word into the wrong word more often than the other way around.

Somehow touchscreens and keyboard have also gotten worse. I remember my old IPhone 4 I could type so fast without errors. And that screen was fucking tiny. Maybe I'm just too old but modern phones make my hands hurt and I still have errors all the damn time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You might just be older. A number of keyboards do actually use that data but in the autocorrection phase. I think most people would hate it if the key sizes kept changing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A while ago I became terribly aware of people writing things like "apostrope's" to indicate plurality. I was pretty convinced that it was a new thing, but I've since found examples of people doing that far in the past! I'm not sure if they were doing it at the same rate but they had been doing it for a while.

I know that some foreign language speakers use this as part of their grammar, but they do so according to a rule system. The people I encounter doing this have only ever known american english and do so without any apparent consistency. If you're going to alter your grammar in that way, at least make it consistent! Like these weirdos. Professionals have standards.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's [greengrocer's apostrophe](greengrocers apostrophe https://g.co/kgs/1gWQ9nT)

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