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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.


Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Climate Change Could Become a Global Economic Disaster New warnings from financial firms and insurers point to a future defined by profound risks to the global economy from heat, storms and other disasters.

Financials firms and insurers started reading /r/collapse and are both slow readers and a little dim.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The company’s “base case,” the report said, was that the world was moving toward a temperature increase of 3 degrees Celsius.

What many people might not fully understand is that a world at +3℃ is one in which BILLIONS will die within a few short years.

There are two major things that will cause this:

  1. Lethally high wet bulb temperatures, to the point where modern consumer-grade air conditioning ceases to effectively function. These high wet-bulb temperatures will strike roughly between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn, and even a spell of as little as a week can kill most people in a region. About 4 Billion will have no choice but to migrate to the temperate regions or die.
  2. Chaotic weather making any significant agriculture impossible. Even backyard gardens will be rendered useless. A warmer planet means a dryer planet, as hotter air pulls vastly more moisture out of the soil than before, and prevents rain from condensing out far more effectively. But when the rain does fall, it will also fall that much more severely, damaging or even killing off crops that cannot handle those deluges. And when 80+% of all crops are either directly or indirectly dependent on timely and predictable rain, neither too much nor too little…

And with the acceleration of warming in the last few years, +3℃ appears to be most likely to be reached shortly after 2035.

Yes, we have only about a decade before billions begin to die of the heat directly, or via starvation.

Fun times. Here I thought I was lucky, in that most of this shite was forecast for 2050 and beyond, well past my expected lifespan… looks like I’ll be in the trenches just like everyone else.

And once again, stuff is happening “much sooner than expected”.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

About 4 Billion will have no choice but to migrate to the temperate regions or die.

Well yeah, sort of. 4 billion aren't migrating. Millions migrate, billions perish.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

What many people might not fully understand is that a world at +3℃ is one in which BILLIONS will die within a few short years.

People don't care, the ones causing this assume they won't be (the richeset 20%) and many of the rest don't agree ot sna issie anyway. Anyone who voted D or R at last years Presidential election is just reinforcing the orthodoxy of stupidity.as but one example.

Another exmaple, we kill 9 million a year from hunger, another 9 million a year from pollution. Anyone here give enough of a fcuk to stop driving their car ? In a decade thats something like 180million deaths there alone. Have you tred to get people to give up a coffee a week to help ? nearly impossible.

Just look a the issie with homlessness and immigrants.. Shit's given over actual humans ? Near fcuking zero.

We do not give a shit, we're petty, stupid and greedy at our core, it is after all why we're in this mess.

Bring on collpase ;)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Could JFC.. 🤦‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's ok. USA is bringing coal back! If the destruction is accelerated, we won't have to worry about it anymore. Win, win.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Oh don't worry! It's clean coal!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

According to some economists, making the planet we live on uninhabitable could hurt global GDP by up to 15%.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Nobel prize winners no less.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Best of the snarky responses so far IMO.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

It's but one symptom of the dysfunctional way we live on the planet.

Civilization will collapse, at my most optimistic I'd hoped we would manage that collapse equitably as best we coild but in the 20 years I've been interested I've seen no evidence of that, so ... unplanned and violent it will be.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

headlines from 15 years ago

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Oh no, not the economy!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

That’s like saying nuclear war could hurt the global economy. True, but there’s probably more significant reasons to be concerned.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

no shit son

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

What, an economic disaster? Why didn't they tell us sooner, I just thought that we'd be getting better surf and have to spend more on air conditioning.