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The TL;DR in one quote:

Job cuts at the US traffic safety regulator instigated by Elon Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency disproportionately hit staff assessing self-driving risks, hampering oversight of technology on which the world’s richest man has staked the future of Tesla.

An interesting quote from a Tesla manager:

“Letting Doge fire those in the autonomous division is sheer madness—we should be lobbying to add people to NHTSA,” said one manager at Tesla. They “need to be developing a national framework for AVs, otherwise Tesla doesn’t have a prayer for scale in FSD or robotaxis.”

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The real reason elon is doing this....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

no conflict of interest, none at all

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Tbh this is really frustrating. As many car crashes I ran in my 15 years in EMS, NHTSA has probably saved more lives in the last twenty years than the Dept of Public Health, especially once you consider how for much of America, there really is no alternative to driving.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Plot twist: NHTSA are the only people that approve new designs, so Tesla can't sell any more cars.

Well we can dream.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think this is unironically what they are going for everywhere: delegating regulation to industry, as is the case to some extent in aviation. If they get their way, they won't need approval from the NHTSA or any other agency, because they will self-approve and likely even shape regulation themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Boeing (just one example) has been pushing for lower or self regulation for a while.

That was part of what led to the 737-MAX issue:

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-pushed-faa-to-arelax-737-max-certification-requirements-for-crew-alerts/

Airlines concerned for safety will be moving away from Boeing if the deregulation continues.

The libertarian BS is going to set America back a century - in many respects.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Great, now they can rear-end motorcycle riders even more often

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago

It's almost as if the fascist apartheid baby has an agenda behind all of this.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

This would be REALLY CORRUPT if Elon was the President! FORTUNATELY that's NOT the Case! They would NEVER let an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT like HIM to do that!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I won't buy any American car newer than 2024.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Neither will the rest of the world, if their cars fail the safety requirements in all the other countries.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do the cars not have to be certified? It seems to me that fewer employees just means longer delays for certifications, not easier certifications

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The NHTSA doesn’t actually certify anything.

They write the standards that vehicles and products must follow, but it’s up to the manufacturers to certify themselves as being compliant.

This explains how the cyber trucks, with no third party testing, are considered road legal in the US and basically no other country.

So Elon is not firing regulators that will deny his cars a certification, he’s firing regulators that decide what the requirements will be.

Thats so much worse.

Source for anyone interested. It’s a reply to a man wanting to import air bags, but the letter does give a nice overview of the laws.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The Cybertruck doesn't violate any US laws, there's nothing to disallow it, and independent testing gave it 5 star saftey rating.

And while OEMs do self certify, they get spot checked to ensure compliance. There's too many new vehicles and variants for the NHSTA/EPA etc. to ever check every single one in detail.

Edit: and if you really wanna get into it, most of the other OEMs everyone wants to love actually put defeat devices for said spot checking to lie and kill us sooner with bad air for $$$

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What is DOGE again ? (I was living under a rock)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)[b] is an initiative of the second Trump administration tasked with cutting federal spending which it characterizes as "waste, fraud, and abuse".[8] It emerged from discussions between Donald Trump and Elon Musk, and was established by executive order on January 20, 2025. DOGE's actions have included accessing government data systems; organizing mass layoffs of federal workers; and cutting climate change initiatives, scientific research, and DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) programs.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Government_Efficiency

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Online banker man turned electric car salesman bought that website you used to use to tell your friends about what the dentist's waiting room was like or whatever (or yell at celebrities I guess) and used it to help that guy who fired people on tv become president. In return banker car man gets put in charge of shiny new government agency and given the power to fire basically whatever government employees he wants, also his private security detail is deputized by the US Marshals Service, also he has your social security number, probably

I think that should about cover it unless someone else wants to add more detail. But I think I was very thorough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You forgot about the ketamine and the blown apart dick

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He is also addicted to ketamine, yes. I hadn't heard about the blown apart dick. Clearly I have also been living under a rock.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Insecurity is a pox on this world

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Always has been!!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do not see a conflict of interest. 🙈

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

FFS, someone end this already

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago

Be car reliant nation Remove car safety

Hilarious

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ahh, the sole reason I can stomach the way auto prices have inflated over the past 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Elon rather keep it as profit. Imagine how money he'll save by not have to setup a lifesaving pyrotechnics ballet in every car.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

To be completely fair the American government currently does this with inflation, among other things. Actually inflationary item? Whoops we removed it from the calculation. All good here, boss. Sweeping something you don't want to account for "under the rug" is practically normalized in this government. It isn't right- obviously... but this isn't really shocking either.

The elephant? Where? In this room?! We don't talk about that.

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