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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm always down with the Black Panthers. ✊🏿 They did great community work.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Don't take what i say in the wrong way but what is listed does not really work any better than police. And before i go further, I also live in a place where police is lazy corrupt and racist to some extent, but first 2 are also a result of the fact they are not paid well.

  • Teach everyone self defence - that is good in principle, but it is double edged sword - you are also possible training a future criminal, and it would most likely still be a net benefit

  • organise your local communities and do community patrols (I don't remember much about how it is done in wakanda, only saw the first movie and also a long time ago) - there are 2 possible ways - either we cycle through the population - then the quality of patrol would "vary" to put it gently, if we make a small subset of people who are nominated for the job - then you have made police again - they can still get corrupt

  • Handle conflict mediation without a racist incarceration system that doesn't work? - it is spoken in a self fulfulling prophecy way - it assumes (1) conflict mediation is always possible and (2) and you do not want a system which is racist. (2) is fine, but (1) is not easy. We do not a systematic framework (constitution) and people who understand it well. Not everyone can be put in burden of understanding the law (everyone should have basic understanding, but most people already do, but most real world crime is not that easy)

What is written, mostly works for a small community (of the size of a village (< 1000)). This may also justify living in smaller self sufficient communities, but this is not efficient (in sense of resource usage) - too many people would be constantly reinventing wheels. Also, the "quality" (read threat level) of criminal would vary from village to village, and if a criminal goes on village hopping rampage, these disconencted villages would be at a disdvantage, they can act like fediverse network - share the "post" with federating "communities" but if they are not federating with a community (either intentionally, or they have never come across yet) then the "post" would go unnoticed.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

holy shit my dude black panther style means irl black panthers from actual history not marvel movies ffs

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

We NEED Cops! Without them WHO would we call AFTER a Crime has Happened? WHERE would we Invest those BILLIONS of Dollars we Would Save? We NEED COPS!

[–] [email protected] 127 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Communities organizing themselves into squads to handle criminals and undesirables is also how we ended up with the KKK. Also the kinds of people who volunteer for unpaid security work tend to be pretty conservative in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

If a society is a the point of calling for a substitute to police, then you are fucked. at that point you are just gonna build two armed factions which are illegitimate in each others eyes. thats how you get a civil war.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago

yeah, it was only when we added in paychecks they became police.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

I feel like this sounds like a great idea until you end up with a bunch of unregulated militias run by the George Zimmermans of the world in every red state with a government who doesn’t give a shit, but I’d absolutely love to be proven wrong

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