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Sure, there was the attempted assassination of Reagan and the fears for Obama as the first black President, but in those cases it was a lone nutter rather than a conspiracy.
How long can Trump crash the market before an angry billionaire decides to take him out? The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump...
Pretty likely. The chances of getting assassinated are essentially dependent on two things:
how easy would it be
how many people want to make it happen
I believe that there's enough of the second to more than compensate for the first.
When the rule of law has been abandoned then frontier justice makes an appearance.
Statistically, he'll die of poor health in the next four years. He's very unhealthy, and very old. Medicine can only do so much.
We thought that when he got covid though.
Some people are kept alive through sheer meanness.
If it didnt happen last time, and a close yet unsuccessful attempt was made this time. My money is on, Trump lives to start harping about a third term in 2028.
If it happens, its going to be a gavrillo princip type of deal, the more planning that goes into it, the more likely the conspirators get caught simply for the amount of surveilence that goes on in this world.
if anyone is going to merk a world leader. its going to be something spur of the moment, wrong turn, wrong person, wrong time.
its going to be something spur of the moment, wrong turn, wrong person, wrong time.
The way history likes to repeat, it'll be something stupid involving a sandwich
Some damned foolish thing in the Balkans
Donny dumps wanted dunkin donuts and didn't expect a hole in his head?
CIA with Israel killed JFK. Israel picked Trump as the most supportive of genocide. It's fair that every other politician would still support it, though perhaps not as far as a war on Iran.
The CIA is a "US Corporatist global champion deal facilitator". But Trump has picked loyalists at the top of intelligence and military apparatus. Unlike the past, where best people, defined as pure warmongering evil devoted, had these jobs, current batch of diaper licking appointees lose their jobs if "crazy daddy" impeached/exterminated from policy relevance.
So none of "JFK's checks and balances" apply today. Russia war not as important as maximum zionism.
CIA with Israel killed JFK
Yeah, I'm gonna that claim
It's made up bullshit with zero evidence.
a large enough mob could pull him out of mar a lago. i'm not saying it would be easy.
I think by the time we hit 2026 there will be tens of millions who voted MAGA who wish that last year's attempt would have succeeded, but logistically, it's basically impossible now. Anything that might get Trump would probably have to be powerful enough to take out a whole crowd, and that's just very unlikely.
It's also debatable whether it would even be a good thing. Political assassinations always have ramifications that weren't planned for, but on the other hand, Trump is basically a cult leader and cults always shrivel a bit when the leader passes on.
Anything that might get Trump would probably have to be powerful enough to take out a whole crowd, and that's just very unlikely.
Hard disagree, Ukraine takes consumer drones and turns them into pinpoint bombers or ultra fast suicide drones. They are VERY effective.
IMO the only reason political violence hasn't been more common is people afraid of losing what they have. But they're soon to lose it anyway.
Except for the assassination of Abe, which was a resounding success by any measure. The perp got everything he wanted and more.
i still wonder. HOW DID THAT ONE GUY MISS?!
Darkest timeline, am I right?
Range - Trump was over ~~300~~ 150 yards away from the shooter. Thanks for the correction
Equipment - AR pattern rifles ( I think it was a Daniel defense) with a red dot sight. That setup is for quick target acquisition and field of view. It is not meant for hitting distant targets.
Shooting conditions - The shots were taken outdoors, where there was a cross breeze.
Difficult Target - if you've ever seen trump on stage, he has this weird wobble he does all the time, which shifts his head rapidly and unpredictably from side to side multiple feet. He had to get hit in the head too. He probably was wearing soft body armor at this point, and there are multiple ambulances nearby and he gets priority medical care. Anything less than instantly lethal would not take him out. So it had to be a headshot.
Counter-fire. There are multiple trained and properly equipped snipers guarding trump. There was an armed policeman trying to get on the building with the shooter. This is not simply lying down at a range and taking your time.
TL; DR - it's not like videogames.
Range - Trump was over 300 yards away from the shooter.
He was around 150 yards. Not 300.
But if he had a proper target rifle in a better long range caliber and a telescopic sight he would have had a much better chance of succeeding.
At that distance and wind conditions a chest shot would have been better. But he aimed for the head.
Fixed, thank you.
Chest shot wouldn't work. Like I said, at that point in the campaign, the former president has secret service protection and was probably wearing soft armor underneath. Even then, you would need a hit that is instantly lethal. If you hit the lung, liver, or even a major blood vessel, and he still lives because he has priority medical care on standby, so you would need to hit the heart to get the job done. Heart is smaller than head.
Even with soft body armor. A high velocity round like the .300 win mag or 6.5 creedmoor with boat tail JHPs would still zip through like nothing is there. The cavitation that those rounds make is devastating. Also the shooter tried to go for a follow up shot but missed. Double hitting the chest would have been more possible and that would be much more likely to do it.
I am aware of the circumstances that president's and ex-presidents have in terms of medical support. All of his bodyguards are probably EMT level trained and they probably have a full on trauma team ready. But getting the head under those circumstances would have been tough.
But then again... if he did have a proper target rifle and long range caliber... the head would have been easier to hit and maybe the wind wouldn't have blown it off course as much.
If we're being real, it's not likely at all. He's probably safer than Biden was.
Not only does the secret service impose incredibly tight security (not perfect, mind you), but Trump doesn't go anywhere except the White House and his shithole golf course.
In order to assassinate him, it would probably have to be an inside job. That seems exceptionally unlikely.
He's also useful. A lot of the kinds of people who might wish to be rid of him back in the day would much rather put him to use for their own ends.
Wouldn't that be a Reichstag fire 2.0
Yep, expect that. I bet thet they are working on that, choosing right "target".
I can imagine JD vance declaring martial law, suspending democracy and eliminating the "rebellion"