Wouldn't this be considered a form of Holocaust denial, which would make Trump supporters Holocaust-denier supporters?
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And that’s basically it!
Not to mention that among their rationale for attacking Palestinian support has been stopping antisemitism
Unsurprising to hear that they were projecting about something else
Every day I have to turn the love a little so I don't freeze to death. Sometimes I collect wood for making love in the brick love place. And I have an instapot that makes my food cook so good by applying a ton of love. Its great to know that our president knows about love and how Jews were made into love and deterrent. You can take a shower and cleanse your body using deterrent. But have you washed your body in deterrent made by other people? I'll give you an example, all our car fool, which makes our cars hunk, was made by dynosours. I'm sure some was made by dynosweets, like sweet crude fool.
Old man rambles on. The day the universe decides to take this orange fuck with be a great day.
I will take up drinking again for celebratory purposes for one day
The same love that the Palestinians have been receiving
It's only recently I've come to the frightening realization that...we're all tensely waiting for World War 3 to start. It HAS started, the fronts just aren't within the traditional empires; and a good 70% of the war is on ideology and propaganda.
I think WW3 already happened - it was fought with oil in the '70s and the West lost (badly) to OPEC. The current one is WW4 and fought with information - and we're losing (badly) again.
sorry not to be a douche but I think you're both wrong. The cold war never ended it's been ongoing
I don't want to defend Trump in anyway but this is a hystirical headline meant to generate clicks and attention.
“I said to them, was there any sign of love?” Trump said, recounting his conversation with released hostages.
“Did the, Hamas, show any signs of like, help? Or liking you? Did they wink? Did they give you a piece of bread extra? Did they give you a meal on the side? … Like, you know, what happened in Germany?” Trump said, absurdly comparing the hostages’ situation to the Holocaust, which murdered six million Jews.
“People would try and help people that were in unbelievable distress,” the president went on, suggesting that the Nazis were known for their generosity.
“No, they didn’t do that, they’d slap us,” Trump said the hostages told him about Hamas, while sitting next to the man who is currently leading Israel’s genocide in Gaza. “Their hatred is unbelievable.”
What I think he is trying to say in a very weird way is Nazi's treated Jews better than Hamas does now.
Yes the orange monkey is very stupid and crazy for saying shit like this, again I don't want to defend him in any way but the article does not say that Trump thinks Nazi's loved Jews.
What do you mean hysterical headline? He said exactly what the headline said. In the full context he looks stupider but what he said is the same.
Why are you trying to defend a guy saying the Nazis were gooder than Hamas? Why would you ever take that fight unless you are a liar or stupid?
Yeah but he kind of did anyway, reading from what you just posted there. That was an insane ramble
I'm reminded of the initial framework that Auschwitz used for Jews. Many of them came voluntarily, because the Germans were making vague promises of "We're planning a Jewish settlement where you will be safe, and kept separate from the German Aryan future." So I could be reaching, but maybe he's interpreting something around that - the idea of using "nice gestures" (lies) to lure people in and humanize themselves.
Of course, it's a reach in any regard to interpret something coherent from Donald Trump, especially when regarding history.
You're participating in the old good tradition of sanewashing what Trump said. You don't need to interpret that jumble of sounds as charitably as possible, he doesn't deserve it, and he repeatedly showed that he actually means the worst most of the time. He said "nazis showed signs of love to holocaust victims" with his own stupid mouth. You don't need to excuse him by interpreting it as if he didn't say it.
I knew this thread would be FILLED with Trump apologist. He literally said "was there any love?... Like there was in Germany"
It's not taking it too far. It's what he said. We don't need to figure out if he meant a prison guard or Germans in general. We don't need to excuse what he meant by adding precision he didn't add. According to Trump there was love for Jews in Nazi Germany.
I'm so glad to see at least a few people resisting the sanewashing.
Jesus fucking Christ. It is a sad day when a person that actually read the article and provided context and quotes to rebuke an obvious clickbait title is accused of sanewashing Trump.
Sometimes Lemmy can be a worse disinformation-spreading echo chamber than Reddit ever was. Be better.
Thanks, there is a lot of sanewashing going on in the media and lemmy. Me trying to explain why he might say something as stupid and hurtful like this is perhaps also sanewashing him. But I did want to post those quotes mainly because I feel Lemmy and the Internet is general is better off if we base our hate and dislike (which I certainly agree with in Trumps) on things that actually happend.
Yes Trump said something very crazy, even for him more crazy than usual but falling for headlines like this is not gonna make it easier to talk with people who support Trump or someone like him and polarization played, I think, a huge part in why he could get elected. If we choose to make lemmy a place that polarizes people it will give people like Trump power.
I read the article, I saw the interview. He literally said "was there any love?... Like there was in Germany"
What I skipped is only a description of what Trump thinks love is (extra piece of bread and a wink) and that hamas didn't do it. The two clauses are literally directly connected.
I know it's hard to believe that's what he said. Unfortunately you'll have to accept it to deal with the modern reality.
We need to stop paying that much attention to every exabrupte that goes out of his mouth...
exabrupte
Wow, a new word! Thank you, fellow lemming, for enriching my day.
(As a well-read old fart, it's honestly exciting to come across a completely unfamiliar word.)
We should've stop doing it before he got into the office. Now his ramblings are interpreted by his followers as laws, so you have to pay the most attention possible to it. For your own safety, and for the safety of others.
His comments are still idiotic but what he's saying is that in Germany some people where helping Jews, not that nazis treated them with "love" (at least in the fragment I've seen).
If the 'Hamas' word was 'Palestinians', maybe. Now it is clear he is talking about the Nazi officers and soldiers.
Dude, nothing Trump says is ever clear.
“Did the, Hamas, show any signs of like, help? Or liking you? Did they wink? Did they give you a piece of bread extra? Did they give you a meal on the side? … Like, you know, what happened in Germany?” Trump said, absurdly comparing the hostages’ situation to the Holocaust, which murdered six million Jews.
Looks like a direct Nazi prison guard comparison to me
I mean... who knows what rattles in his empty skull. For me he's just rambling. It could be about Nazi guards or about Germans in general. He's basically trying to say "Hamas is just hate while in Germany there was also some basic human kindness". It's obviously bullshit but translating it to "nazis treated Jews with love" is taking it too far.
The Lemmy hivemind cares not for nuance.
That's why I have downvotes disabled :)
I think his odd choice of word is a result of both his limited vocabulary and his narcissism. He has no idea what feeling or expressing love for another person is.
“People would try and help people that were in unbelievable distress,” the president went on, suggesting that the Nazis were known for their generosity.
Sounds like he's talking about Germans in general to me, while the article immediately says that he must mean Nazis.
There's a lot of dumb shit Trump says. I don't think this is one of those things (his comparison between the holocaust and the hostages is still weird, but that's typical "par for the course").
he's specifically asking about the treatment from Hamas and his examples don't make sense in the context of just Germans.. winking? giving an extra piece of bread?
His language is always tough to interpret but I've read the full quote several times now and I don't see how it makes sense unless he's comparing the hostage treatment from Hamas to the Nazis' treatment of the Jewish people.
I don't think he's saying that the Nazis loved the Jewish people but I also don't think that's what the headline says either.
Yep, exactly that. Really no need to make up stupid shit he says. There's enough of real stupid shit he actually says.