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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nope, they're still full-on MAGATizing out there. If they realize anything yet, it's only subconsciously and they'll never admit it, even to themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Who cares?

The media is pushing this narrative about "Trump voters" so that liberals will go "FAFO" and jerk off about leopards. The fact remains that most of the people hurt by these policies didn't vote for them.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I loathe voting for neoliberals. I'm fully aware it's harm reduction and this ship has been sinking under Neoliberals and Fascists since Reagan converted his former opposition to the corpo take into today. I haven't had a candidate to vote for in a general election in my entire life. I'm 40. Yes Ive volunteered in primaries for a better path.

But I did eat the rancid shit and vote neoliberal every time, because affirmation ribbons you can't eat or live inside are still better than scapegoats. I hated voting for Kerry, Obama, Clinton, Biden, and Harris, but I took my medicine and did it with a funeral dirge in my heart telling myself it's better that less people get hurt than more. The ship has been sinking my entire voting life regardless of party, but it's been crystal clear it sinks faster under fascists than neoliberals. Something something to that starfish it mattered.

The people that could vote for Harris but didn't can get fucked right along with the Trump voters as far as I'm concerned. My empathy is reserved for people too young to vote and people who voted against this.

Willful ignorance about your own society and governance is no excuse. "Teehee I'm not political I'm keeping up with the Kardashians/stupid sports GAMES" means you didnt care about anyone else, feel free to diaf.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (14 children)

I voted Harris. But at this point, i am thinking that the Democratic Party must be corralled first before trying to take on the republicans. So now i am looking for third party or independent in the future.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They didn't vote against them either.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not all of them. Just got off the phone with my dad where he was celebrating the successful effort to curb waste fraud and abuse. apparently this was all bidens fault and thank god we have trump to guide us through to prosperity. now, I just need to put my paycheck into crypto and I’ll be one of the new lords of this coming age..

thank god, was beginning to worry after checking on my 401k…

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sorry your dad is an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

says you, but he’ll beat that cancer with the ivermectin, I’m sure of it…

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s all wrapped up with a beautiful bow, the biggest, best bow ever, people are saying that, a bow like you’ve never seen before, everyone knows there is no better bow in terms of wrapping.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Do grown men cry when they see the bow?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"This was supposed to happen to them, not me!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These are catastrophically stupid people, but you have to leave space for people to change their minds. We need each other.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

slow clap Turns out that they're not all illiterate, so I guess a belated congratulations on their achievement of 8th grade reading comprehension is in order?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think this is a very important bit:

When we say they’re voting against their interests, I think we have to be very clear. I don’t think when they vote for somebody like Trump, or George W. Bush for that matter or Mitt Romney, they’re voting against many of their social and cultural interests. They may simply apply greater salience or weight to that than they do their ability to cover their health care costs or their ability to limit their co-pays and out-of-pocket expenses or their tax rates or their local industries.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Definitely important for us to understand and also just insane that that's probably the right conclusion too. They care more about their culture war issues than they do about their health care etc., that is at least until the moment someone comes for them. It's such a depressing failure of imagination that such a wide swath of the voting public fails to realize how bad it could get for them until it actually does.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Also, there was a part of the article that talked about the "us (rural) vs them (city)" mentality. We need to start pointing out that there are a shit ton of rural folk in the city. Cities are our true melting pot and why they're usually very liberal. They are surrounded by the "thems" in the rural boogie man scenario. The city people work with them, talk to them, see them on the street and they are human also.

The covid portion is going to stick with me awhile too. The rural areas should have had the least amount of deaths during covid and I think that was what Trump was counting on. They aren't on mass transit and don't have to see their neighbor if they don't choose too. They had a natural social distancing. But they were 3 to 4x the death rate. The lack of interaction makes them more racist and that racism made them die more. It's a crazy way to look at it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was at a rally over the weekend. I can assure you that most of them are still quite committed to being taken. At least in my odd little corner of Oregon.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The rural parts of Oregon are something else. I don't think people realize that blue states just have huge cities to vote blue, not that the entire state is blue. Same with the red states.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

The BEST thing the DNC can do Right Now is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING while People Suffer! That way they can Prepare their WINNING CANDIDATE Kamala Harris for a Run in 2028! It's a NO LOSE Solution!

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