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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Already switched to Nobara. Only have Windows dual boot because Space Engineers Multiplayer doesn't seem to work on Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I got ahead of the game a little bit by switching to Linux in 2008.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And 25% of users in Asia still use Windows 7. People are going to stay on the OS for as long as possible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If only we had a reason to upgrade.
Instead, we have many reasons not to.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I won't be doing pretty much anything about it. I have 10 pro, I don't really give a shit about what Microsoft thinks I should do. My computer is behind a firewall, and bluntly, it'll be a while before the security issues become such a problem that I need to go and upgrade.

However. I already did the legwork. I went out and upgraded the hardware TPM 1.2 in my system to TPM 2.0, and I picked up some (relatively cheap) Windows 11 pro product keys. I can upgrade if I want.

I also have access to W10 LTSC, so I can always pivot to that if I need to.

I get the security and other concerns with Windows 10. I do, but the windows 11 changes, to me seem like they're changes for the sake of things being changed. Windows 10's user experience was already quite good, apart from the fact that every feature release seemed to have the settings moved to a different location (see above about making changes for the sake of making changes). IMO, as a professional sysadmin and IT support, the interface and UX changes have made Windows, as a product, worse; it is by far the worst part of the upgrade process and I don't know why they thought any of it was a good idea. I also hate what M$ has done with printers, but I won't get started on that right now.

For all the nitpicking I could do, Windows was, for all intents and purposes, exactly what it needed to be, between Windows 7 and 10. There hasn't been any meaningful progress in the OS that's mattered since x86-64 support was added. Windows 10 32 bit was extremely rare, I don't think I ever saw it (where W7 was a mixed bag of 32/64 bit). Having almost everyone standardized on 64 bit, and Windows 10, gave a predictability that is needed in most businesses. The professional products should not follow the same trends as the home products. If they want to put AI shovelware and ads into the home products, fine. Revamp the vast majority of the control panel into the settings menu, sure. But leave the business products as-is. By far the most problems that people have with Windows 11 that I hear about, relate to how everything changes/looks different, and/or having problems navigating the "new look" or whatever the fuck.

Microsoft: you had a good thing with Windows 10, and you pissed it all away when you put out the crap that is Windows 11.

Stop moving shit around, making controls less useful, and stop making it look like the UX was designed by a 10 year old. Fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

If it only was just moving things around. The control panel has been further castrated while the settings app is just bad. Something about their CPU scheduler changes straight up broke VMware, and obviously MS is in no hurry to fix it resp. cooperate with VMware, being a competitor.

Rounded corners? I couldn't care less. It's a functional downgrade, though.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

I also have access to W10 LTSC, so I can always pivot to that if I need to.

You can pivot to W11 LTSC if you want

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Most problems people have with Linux, I think, come from trying to be Linux power users from the start by performing very advanced techniques beyond their time and patience: dual booting multiple operating systems (so they don't have to buy Linux-dedicated hardware), using any graphics card (the latest and greatest GPUs are all closed source and developers who work on Linux do so because they despise closed source), using the least expensive hardware (which are typically closed source and buggy with anything except Windows), and emulating Windows apps so they don't have to learn new workflows or abandon their favorite games (technically, Proton with Steam allows Windows games like FFXIV to be played, but it's a neverending journey to get it working and keeping it working.

If you switch to Linux, accept that for a smooth experience you'll have to pay more than you would for a Windows machine (e.g. System76, Framework) And if you want graphics card support for your emulated Windows games on Steam, you're going to have to use the specific flavor of Linux the manufacturer supports.

That said, if you value free/libre open source software, then making the switch from Windows is totally worth it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are right about trying to be power users. I switched to Linux recently and definitely struggled with my sudden reduction is understanding. I got everything I needed for gaming setup up in a few hours. Then I tried to set up some productivity workflows and slammed into a brick wall of my own ignorance. I definitely considered just going back to Windows.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Many Linux distros are not very user friendly and intuitive when it comes to normal users with two left hands when it comes to PCs. Lots of Linux power users need to get off of their high horse and realize this. If I had some issues, my parents definitely will.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

New GPUs don’t work on Linux? Where did you get that idea from?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Very accurate comment!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I think this may be out of date now, dual booting is relatively simple to set up and there are a wealth of tutorials online for it, setting up a graphics card (nvidia) was a breeze, and for the wide majority of games in my library (I play both indie and AAA), I've had very few issues running native, and most that haven't ran out of the box have guides posted on protondb.com, most are up and running in 5 mins.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate on the incompatibility of the newest GPUs? It looks like Nvidia publishes a Linux driver for the Blackwell series and there are a number of AI applications (like supporting Triton and pysam-based methods) which seem harder to get working on Windows than on Linux.

I'm considering switching over but I hear mixed things about Nvidia support. Some people seem to say it's a pain to get the drivers working and others seem to think that's an issue that's been resolved. Not sure what to think in terms of how difficult the switch would be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm not sure about the specific AI apps you mention, but from my personal experience the "AMD works way better than Nvidia on Linux" mindset is no longer a thing.

When I upgraded to a new gpu a few years ago, I first got an AMD gpu because of that mindset that was all over the internet (I believed them), but for the life of me I couldn't get games to run properly with it. A week later I traded it for an Nvidia card and it just works.

I do suffer from system wake from sleep issues that I think are the nvidia drivers fault, but atleast I can play games if I decide to.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

too late already did switch to linux :3

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah i need star citizen, ableton, fl studio, premier, photoshop and more before i can dedicate a jump to linux

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

don't forget that LTSC is also a solution, you don't have to give in to 11

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Made the jump to Linux. No issues so far, very happy with the switch

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've been daily-driving Linux Mint (LMDE 6) on my Thinkpad T14 G1 for almost a year now. At this point, that laptop is easily the most dependable machine I've ever had. My gaming PC is the last remaining Windows machine in my house. Recently I've been making sure everything is backed up (Syncthing is great for this) and finding alternatives for programs that don't have a Linux version.

My plan is to create images of both my SSDs (500GB & 2TB, both NTFS 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️) onto a 4TB hard drive. Then start from scratch, migrating data from the images (Steam games, config files, personal documents I may have missed, etc) when/if I need it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If ya want to not be plugged into the internet, or use new external media, ya can probably run it safely forever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

That's my plan so far. I just use it for emulators anyway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have 11, so not directly affected. But with "no more security updates" being the only real reason one needs to change, the obvious question here is if there is 3rd party software that can protect a Windows 10 system?

I remember when anti-virus software was in common use.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Windows 10 LTSC gets updates for a while longer. I forget the exact number, but I wanna say it goes into the 2030s?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

It should be easy to get updates with a little hacky help, they'll be available on the long term support schedule.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I'm going to move over to Mint on my laptop, it's older but still working great after I swapped an SSD drive in. Biggest issue is backing up the laptop before installing Linux. I have another computer I plan on duel boot with Windows 10 so I have access if I need windows for certain programs. I have no control over my work computer so Windows 11 there.

And unless one of my brothers steps up and buys our Dad a Windows 11 computer (I bought the Windows 10 computer, which is why it was so cheap it can't take 11. 😆 ) since I'm his tech support if my brothers don't step up he is going to Linux. No matter what I'm going to have to listen to him complain about how it is different so it will be a good time to move to Linux. Probably a version that tries to mimic Windows.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What does Bill Gates have to do with this, he hasn't been directly involved in Microsoft in 17 years? He hasn't even been on the board for 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Dual booting with EndeavourOS now. Once i know i can repeat my workflow on it, i’ll switch over for good.

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