Anything for people to avoid using services like Proton Mail. They'll ask for a Mozilla webmail, an X web mail, but won't use an objectively more secure service. Baffles me 🤷♂️
this post was submitted on 03 Apr 2025
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I asked this before but it might have been buried. Can I run this in a web browser because when I go to the site it wants me to download.
Well, I wouldn't like AI in any communication client of mine. Perhaps if it's local to my box I would like that, but this solution really seems cloud based, meaning one could have an AI crawling over one's data, to do whatever it wants with it. And local solutions usually are not as "good" as the cloud ones for whatever reason (hardware availability, data, and so on):
for users on less powerful hardware, the development team has integrated NVIDIA’s confidential computing to keep any remote processing secure. Rest assured, those who prefer to skip AI services can continue using Thunderbird without these extras.
There's still tuta, or even /e/ (now a days murena), which still seem safer privacy wise than this new thunderbird option.
I'm really hoping for a "librewolf" kind of fork oriented to privacy, and betterbird doesn't offer anything like that. The phoenix project has a safer user config for both firefox and thunderbird, but that doesn't get rid of components (well perhaps it could possibly turn them off, though to make sure they better get ripped at build time).
Does any one know if this new TB service would offer caldav and carddav services as well? I didn't see anything on stalwart advertisement.
I already have tuta and libreoffice
How the uptime with Tuta these days? Was hearing some negative reviews about extended outages a while back.
I want to leave Proton, but I fear for the day I need a 2FA code and I can't get it.
I, personally, didn't have any concern so far.
I am trying to outrun evil techbros but it's impossible...
Self host email, It's not thaylt hard and its good for everyone to make small email servers a thing again
Follow-up question how much does it cost you?
10-20 a year for a domain name.
dynamic dns from freedns is free
Email server is a free laptop with a broken screen
I set it up with dockermail server in an afternoon. They have good docs, it was easy.
The thing keeping me from self hosted email is despite working in the tech field for 8 years, I still can't seem to wrap my head around SSL certs, especially trying to use one from Let's Encrypt. I don't know why.
I recommend you just ask chatgpt to explain how to use certbot Tell it your domain name and ask it to give you the command to create the crrtificates What I do is ask for a systemd service file to check all certificates once a day and update certificates with less than 1 month remaining. After that its taken care of forever
Ty
I have been thinking about it but I wasn’t sure if it would be secure enough. But I will look into it. I have my own domain through a host with a site that has email but it’s for a business I am trying to get going so I don’t want to use that for personal shit.
I will do some research about it. I think I have the skills to set it up I just don’t know how to keep it secured.
Do you run it on a machine at home or do you host it with a provider?
Runs on laptop with broken screen.
The software for email server is multiple decades old, I don't worry about it. Also email isn't really secure. If you have real secrets, you need to use end to end encryption on top.
Sure, but if I can dodge one by simply switching email hosts, why not?
What’s wrong with proton?
@envoy CEO is a trumpist
I read that it isn't as bad as initially thought: https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
Damn... so I dont need to switch. Thanks a lot.
I felt like things doesnt matter, because they donated a lot to other projects and stuff, which a trumpist would never do and instead would start with a worse service for more money.
@envoy No additional "analysis" by some random guy on internet can change what the CEO wrote and did. I saw him admire trump. I saw him use company support account for his personal fight. This really needs something a bit stronger than an "analysis" to regain some trust.
Do one thing and do it well...or compete with one of the largest computing firms in the world to develop a 💩version of commercial software. Captivating...
Tempting
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