Cory Booker Demands that congress fund Israel in Wake of Attacks from Palestine

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

If only he would've had a heart attack during his pathetic show

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I think thisbis from 2023? Wonder if he stills feels that way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

He literally said as much in his recent publicity stunt. Don't really need to wonder.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Well then

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

He declared his fealty to Israel and his support for the genocide during his “filibuster.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Wow well that settles it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

October of 2023? Golly gee, you mean shortly after the attacks when little information was known he made statements in support Israel? My god, he's just as bad as checks notes oh yea EVERYONE AND THEIR FUCKING MOMS!

Holy shit you people are fucking cooked. How do you not wake up every day embarrassed as fuck for your dog shit, perfection-or-nothing takes on the world?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

how come he didn't publish a statement before oct7 2023 where he said palestinians should be free from occupation?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Liberals really should learn that history didn't start on October 7th before they start throwing tantrums like this.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Op is an ml user, I keep getting told that ml isn't full of liberals so what's your logic here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

OP is a Communist, not a liberal.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Booker is a bloodthirsty murderer. I feel sick when I see liberals praising his pointless grandstanding. He's been a sneering Zionist scumbag his whole career.

Liberals are trying to play some kind of critical support angle with their favorite Democrats, but what they're trying (and failing) to criticize is literal genocide. There is no "you gotta hand it to them." They're demons in the flesh. They're irredeemable. No amount of liberal hand-wringing and "how dare you" will revive Palestinian women and children.

Liberals. Please demand something better than the bare minimum. The bare minimum here is not committing genocide.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Can't wait for libs in 2028 to start demanding votes for Booker, Josh Shapiro, or other Zionists, and we have to have this argument all over again.

Can't wait for them to drop "but that was four years ago!" as if the worst crime people can do to one another just washes away in the time it takes to get a bachelor's degree.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This is why I didn't vote for Harris. You can't gaslight me into believing you care about the rights of marginalized groups of people, the environment, democracy, housing, healthcare, and freedom, while you are openly supporting fascism, apartheid and genocide with my taxes.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

You really showed people how to make a difference now that... Trump is in?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Ignore for a second that voting does not actually makes a difference in U.S. foreign policy.

Every third party anti-genocide protest voter changing their vote for Harris in every battleground state is not enough to make up for the margins Harris lost by. But keep believing in the narrative that somehow it's the left's fault and not the goofy ass campaign decisions and Biden clinging to power until the 11th hour.

She was always doomed.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think it makes sense to keep up with this "look what you idiots did" garbage i see so often because, as you said, it isn't a guarantee that it would made a difference, unsolicitedly gloating at someone that their poor decision has lead to increased misery is gross and counterproductive, and it inherently reduces the ultimate culpability on Republican voters that did in fact directly vote for this and should all be held to account. That said, there is a good chance that between abstentions, third party protest votes, and the distribution of both across the critical EC votes, the movement may have tipped the scales--but there is really no way to know either way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not the one that keeps attempting to punch left and blame leftists for liberal failures. It is only liberal Harris defenders that continually bring this up. But let's fact check this.

The data shows that you cannot blame third party voters for the failures to garner enough voters to beat Donald Trump. Even if you convinced every single third party voter it still wouldn't be enough. There's no way count abstentions, but you have no proof to make the claim. Liberals need to stop making the claim and lying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Are you replying to the wrong post? You are effectively agreeing with me but just wrapping it up in a shitty unnecessarily aggro tone?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No I am not replying to the wrong post. I am being aggressive towards the gaslighting that liberals are not to blame for their own failures. I cited the best data we have available to us and it points to the narrative that third party voters did not hand republicans the election like liberals like to claim in order to deflect all blame away from themselves. It's an undefendable position because it is one not grounded in reality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

Yea, ok. Just gonna block and move on. Another hyper aggro .ml just doing the same bullshit as libs on the flipside of the same shitsucking coin. Have the life and day you deserve!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

LoL, you think their vote either way is how they would make a difference. I too would not vote for anyone who is pro-genocide. What a shit voting system. Democracy my arse.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Muh democracy!

proceeds to not vote against the singular largest threat to democracy in almost a century.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

The biggest threat to democracy, by far, would have been Democrats -- the party you view as the good guys! -- doing a genocide and not even suffering an electoral setback. If you can do the literal worst thing humans can do to each other free of consequences, whatever you government have isn't worth supporting, regardless of what you call it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The US has never had genuine democracy. The US has political theater. Trump in power is not changing that fundamental truth, the US public has never had real democratic control to begin with.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

While I do absolutely agree, the commenters here not marshalling every effort and yes, even compromising on issues, to get the lesser of two evils elected I can't help but see as a poorly thought out excuse. Have your disagreement over policy AFTER you prevent the catastrophe.

The US had Turbo racist Hitler Satan running a platform of oppression to supplement and fund oligarch dictator fascism for the foreseeable never ending infinite term regime and some didn't vote for the literal only option to stop that happening because of some infantile dream that dissenting 3rd candidate voices will matter to either side that has and always will govern. I find the moral grandstanding utterly absurd in the context of a 2 outcome race, yet here we are.

They do have faux-democracy, they do have the illusion of representation, they are at the mercy of lobbyists and corporate corruption and bribery, but only one of the two political choices has ever taken those discussions and attempted improvements. Only one side was ever trying to regulate and debate these things, but go and see where naive optimism gets you. You're all planning where to put your beach towels in front of a tsunami.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is, the DNC is not trying to stop any of that. It's all theater, the opposition they put on display is theatrical. Nobody seriously believed a third party would win, the goal is to encourage more people to abandon an electotalist approach to political activism and adopt a more millitant, organizational approach, which has a far better track record at actually influencing policy in a major way.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I hope I see an America that does gain enough awareness to mobilize and dismantle the systemic oppression you're talking about. I, personally, would have voted in the party that doesn't disappear journalists and critics, burns books and refutes facts, I would have rather taken up arms against a politician I could convince of right and wrong than a unified front devoted to evil, but that's my heady optimism getting in the way.

A friend of mine said of the Bush administration that it "had to happen" to show Americans how bad it gets when you let these snakes get power, and no one would vote Republican again after they witnessed the shitshow in action. I think they were optimistic too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

would have voted in the party that doesn’t disappear journalists and critics, burns books and refutes facts

The Democrats absolutely do those things, just look at Gaza.

I would have rather taken up arms against a politician I could convince of right and wrong

So not the Democrats

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know how many times I can restate that the "both sides bad" argument does not make sense to anti-Trump sentiment. Yes the Democrats are shitty, yes they do bad things, but in a choice between that and exactly that but 10x worse I literally cannot wrap my head around this smug superiority of not-ascribing to either side trolling. You do know that undermining Democrats is getting Republicans more power and enacting more of the things you're against?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Ok. What I said is still true though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I think the biggest divide between our POVs is that the DNC definitely does all of the things you accuse them of not doing. We cannot simply talk to the DNC and convince them to do the right thing, they aren't incompetent but well-meaning, but a different wing of the same brutally oppressive Empire.

If I am correct in my analysis there, we must do what we can to adapt our strategy and find solutions that work.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I can see where you're coming from, I'll try to summarise with metaphor and will likely sound asinine but here goes:

If I'm a hitchhiker and I see a suspicious car pull over and offer me a ride, even in the wrong direction, I'm going to take it over the driver that stops, gets out with a chainsaw and runs towards me screaming "go back to your own country", where you're focusing on how this first option is a very bad option. I'm not in disagreement that it's a bad option. It is most definitely a broken, non-functional option. It is however not the lunatic with a chainsaw, which I take as an incredible positive argument for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don't need a metaphor to understand your point, I've heard the argument before. My point is that if we view the historical response to labor organization, both drivers are chainsaw wielding murderers, just one of them puts on a more polite face. The task is the same regardless, it is not any easier if the murderer is more polite about the slaughter if the slaughter is the same.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I understand your point, sorry for a belaboured metaphor, it just helps me think.

Here's my counterpoint: If both options are the same outcome then what is there? Wait for violent, government-toppling civil war before anything changes? If it is institutionalized oppression, both-sides etc, then I can only assume you don't see the current administration as any different to the previous one, or any future DNC? If you think Biden was equivalent to Trump in terms of 'just a nice face on a chainsaw wielding madman', then you have no change in political stance now that Trump is in power and reshaping the constitution to allow indefinite rule? Both sides bad means it hasn't become worse since the party change, as it was always going to be this bad no matter who won?

Follow the logic, I think it sounds grossly myopic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

My solution is labor organization and eventually revolution, I'm a Communist. The Working Class should form its own party and build it up, like PSL, rather than rely on bourgeois parties that serve the same interests.

Trump and Biden/Harris both serve the same ruling class. Nothing really happens without the genuine approval of that class, opposition from the DNC towards the GOP is theatrical in nature and not material. The conditions change with time, but the conditions don't change as much with parties as they do as broader trends.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

You can't vote against somebody in the US. You can only vote for people.

A vote of "no confidence" would be great, though; the idea being that if "no confidence" won, they'd have to re-run the election with all new candidates!

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That's the essence of proportional representation, you get to say a quantifiable amount of approval. However, in a two party 'someone -will- win' type system, voting for one party is directly equivalent to voting against the other. Abstaining from voting has absolutely no effect (if 98% of voters abstained, the remaining 2% would still decide the leader)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

I voted for an anti-genocide candidate: Jill Stein.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Aww, my democracy is running fine bud, cause I'm not an Americunt. Besides, Donnie is not even the biggest threat to the US democracy. Their shitty two party system with both parties openly bought and paid for by oligarchs is a much more insidious threat.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed! Not singling you at all, I made a comment that intended to be more a generalised dismay at the mindset of not voting for the opposition to facism because of high ground morality.

I agree on two party systems being more insidious against true democracy, but even so having half a country agree to such tyranny isn't something democratic processes can fix, only voter mobilization.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Opposition to fascism was not on the ballot. The party doing a genocide abroad is not anti-fascist, it's fascism farther away.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Nazis aren't the biggest threat to democracy? Cool story, bro

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The Democrats were the ones doing a genocide -- that's the most direct comparison to Nazis.

Trump also being a Nazi does not excuse Democrats. It was an election between Himmler and Hitler, and you're upset some people didn't vote for either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Trump and musk are destroying the empire

[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

When a Democrat admits to "mistakes" in their past, it's always something like advocating for the mass-murder of brown children, and you can rest assured that they will not miss the next chance to advocate for the same thing again.

Edit: Oh, actually, he devoted part of this rant to being pro-genocide. Nevermind, as usual, Dems are even worse than you can imagine.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Inconvenient truth downvoters are weapons-grade liberalism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago

There we go

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

We need a nickname for him.

How about 'Bloody Hands' Booker?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Gory Booker

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