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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can see where you're coming from, I'll try to summarise with metaphor and will likely sound asinine but here goes:

If I'm a hitchhiker and I see a suspicious car pull over and offer me a ride, even in the wrong direction, I'm going to take it over the driver that stops, gets out with a chainsaw and runs towards me screaming "go back to your own country", where you're focusing on how this first option is a very bad option. I'm not in disagreement that it's a bad option. It is most definitely a broken, non-functional option. It is however not the lunatic with a chainsaw, which I take as an incredible positive argument for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't need a metaphor to understand your point, I've heard the argument before. My point is that if we view the historical response to labor organization, both drivers are chainsaw wielding murderers, just one of them puts on a more polite face. The task is the same regardless, it is not any easier if the murderer is more polite about the slaughter if the slaughter is the same.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I understand your point, sorry for a belaboured metaphor, it just helps me think.

Here's my counterpoint: If both options are the same outcome then what is there? Wait for violent, government-toppling civil war before anything changes? If it is institutionalized oppression, both-sides etc, then I can only assume you don't see the current administration as any different to the previous one, or any future DNC? If you think Biden was equivalent to Trump in terms of 'just a nice face on a chainsaw wielding madman', then you have no change in political stance now that Trump is in power and reshaping the constitution to allow indefinite rule? Both sides bad means it hasn't become worse since the party change, as it was always going to be this bad no matter who won?

Follow the logic, I think it sounds grossly myopic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

My solution is labor organization and eventually revolution, I'm a Communist. The Working Class should form its own party and build it up, like PSL, rather than rely on bourgeois parties that serve the same interests.

Trump and Biden/Harris both serve the same ruling class. Nothing really happens without the genuine approval of that class, opposition from the DNC towards the GOP is theatrical in nature and not material. The conditions change with time, but the conditions don't change as much with parties as they do as broader trends.