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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

And yet I hear dumbshits bragging all time about how alexa controls my (insert thing that definitely does not need automation here).

These sort of people never think beyond tomorrow and it shows.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think that any electromechanical system that does not allow a mechanical override or at least a redundancy are doomed to fail. I don't know why these IOT entrepreneurs don't take in account that software and electronics are faulty systems, ignoring decades of experience in the subject.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Why would you ever get a toilet that requires anything but the laws of physics to operate?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

You're already @ the mf toilet too, or the sink. what is even the purported purpose of remotely activating something you have to stand there to use?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

My new eFirepit is causing my family to die of hypothermia.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mean... Electronics and the Internet are also following the laws of physics. But I get what you mean, levers should be the only activation, and gravity should be the only requirement.

That being said, electronics in our devices do tend to reduce the amount of water and power that appliances use. Dumb devices are extremely inefficient, even though there are fewer points of failure.

It sucks that a 1950's fridge can still function just fine today, but it also is a bigger strain on the power grid, and a leak in the refrigerant would destroy the ozone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

> That being said, electronics in our devices do tend to reduce the amount of water and power that appliances use. Dumb devices are extremely inefficient, even though there are fewer points of failure.

I fail to see how electronics in these (unpowered) devices in any way reduce the amount of power that they use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Sprinklers and all kinds of stuff are more efficient with sensors and electronic regulators

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I think that was just a general statement regarding old devices, since they brought up a 1950s refrigerator as an example of a powered "dumb" device

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In theory you could have a system that monitors input and then uses a precise amount of water to vacate the bowl.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh sick, a toilet with bowl cameras

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I figure a scale would probably work better.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah I think the meaning of the above comment boils down to "If it doesn't have a simple fallback, it can't be trusted".

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

"Dumb" is the new "smart".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Terminally online, even for #2

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