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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago

Wouldn't say this put loud until I'm in Canada, but yeah. Leave while you can

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Must be nice to be able to leave

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (4 children)

scientists are usually the first target of when a dictator takes power, they often leave before shit hits the fan. then it goes to POC, and then lgbtq+, and then non-loyalists.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It kinda seems like immigrants and anti-war protesters made it to the top of the list this time.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If we all go in on a boat we can invade Ireland

They can't stop us all

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Seriously. I wonder why European countries aren't massively jumping on this opportunity. Like every developed country, the nations of Europe need immigrants to prop up their demographics. Most of Europe's immigrants have been coming from countries in the global South. And while such immigrants have done well for the nations of Europe, there will always be less friction in bringing in immigrants from countries of more similar culture. Fuck any racists who hate Muslims. But the cold truth is it's probably a lot easier to integrate large numbers of politically liberal Americans into European countries than it is to integrate immigrants from Muslim countries. European countries desperately need immigration, but right wing politics is on the rise, in large part due to the frictions of immigration. Obviously American and European cultures are not the same; there are still very real cultural differences. But European vs. American culture is far closer than many other cultural pairings out there.

European countries do have some very limited ancestry-based immigration policies. But they usually only go back a generation or two. If your parent or grandparent immigrated from a European country to the US, you can get easy immigration in a lot of EU countries. But for most Americans of European descent, that immigration happened generations ago.

If the EU countries were clever right now, they could take advantage of this opportunity to bring in large numbers of disaffected Americans. They could offer relocation assistance, make it cheap and easy for educated American progressives to pack their bags and jump the pond. And in exchange they get workers in their economies they don't have to train to educate, and immigrants who would assimilate quite readily into the existing cultural milieu.

Hell, personally, I'm a typical American in that I have a hodgepodge of European ancestry. But my ancestors came over before 1900, there's nowhere in Europe I qualify for immigration based on ancestry. But if one of the countries my ancestors came from wanted to made it cheap and easy for me to return to the old country, I would jump on that.

Hell, the politics of it sell itself. Bill it politically as "bringing the European diaspora home."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But the cold truth is it's probably a lot easier to integrate large numbers of politically liberal Americans into European countries than it is to integrate immigrants from Muslim countries

I genuinely don't think it makes a big difference for like 99% of immigrants. The process is pretty much the same. Gotta find work, a home and learn the language. The cultural friction you mentioned mostly affects the immigrants themselves rather than society as a whole.

Plus there are already ways for Americans to move here, especially skilled workers. There are some hurdles of course but it's doable. Don't really see why we should make it any easier except for potential refugees like Latin Americans and queer people.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago

I'd be afraid to announce it until I'm out

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait

What happens if they try to pull my passport but I don't have one

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

You get put in holding indefinitely? Or go to El Salvador.

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