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Would love some older internet gen input here: is this a "gen [whatever] is so [negative trait here] because they are [generation group]" or "younger ppl be stupid"?
Context: Am a millennial. At my first "real job" (as in, in the industry I got my degree in) I worked with ONE (1) other person, who was an early Gen-Xer. After developing a report with each other and becoming friendly, he lamented to me about how it seems like "millennials (not you, of course)" seem so helpless - like they can't figure things out on their own. Always asking "where is-" or "how do i-" before even examining the problem at hand and/or the resources available.
This dude was a self-proclaimed "blue fish in a red sea," and we worked with a wide age-range of sales ppl. I mention this, bc in the two years I worked with this nerd (and he was a fucking nerd, taking into account modern day and late 80s-early 90s standards of the term), his complaints about millennials never sounded like media parrot-speech. He was literally befuddled about the operational differences between generations.
It 100% seemed like an ageist thing. This was the late 2010's, pre-covid.
I'm in my 30s now and am equally baffled when my teenaged niece (weird familial age gap - not relevant here) doesn't know how to make the tap water hot when there's only one knob instead of two. She asked outloud but I refused to acknowledge or answer her. Niece figured it out shortly on her own, as expected.
So-... maybe younger people are just, yknow, dumb? Or recognize that, when surrounded by more experienced others, it takes less effort to ask for guidance than to waste energy through trial and error-?
Not trying to prove a point here. Just legit curious if anyone older has had similar experiences and can offer insight into whether this is a "zoomers are-" or "younger people are-" observation.
What's the point of these shitty designations? Isn't hatred caused by racism etc. enough for people? Do you really have to artificially talk about a better DNA like Hitler in order to discriminate against and hate a large part of humanity? Fuck anyone who uses such bullshit discrimination.
It's the same fucking thinking as the nazis... The main thing is to make huge groups that you can hate and you think you're above them...
I think you're spot on with "young people dumb". Takes a while to figure out.. like, everything.
Generations will have different strong and\or weak areas because their environment changes, but our sum total of "competence" will stay the same IMHO.
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I've definitely noticed the younger ones are used to asking any question and having it simply answered. They grew up with the internet, it's obvious I suppose, and chatgpt is just going to make that worse. The juniors and entry-level people coming in are smart, but I feel like I'm seeing lower problem solving and critical thinking.
Things like "it doesn't work", okay well what you you tried? What things did you attempt before giving up. Idk, definitely a different mindset.
I'm training a 26yo right now. He's eager to figure things out. I've made things easy and comfortable to learn and he's thriving on my efforts (positivly) he's doing well with appropriate training. However I have a 50 year old that is trailing heavily behind because he wants things to just work.
I'm trying to build a system that provides ease of use but it seems like the older gen isn't interested in it working and more just like getting an easy paycheck.
It's difficult not to mouth off, but perhaps worth the effort.
My 6yo will look for an object for approximately 0.25 seconds before yelling to ask where it is. Sometimes he can't even spot things I'm pointing directly at.
Other times I'm taken off guard by his quick wit or long memory.
Wisdom always comes at a cost. We should not shame those who are still saving up for the down payment.
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I am genuinely having a hard time with my Gen Z employee. I have to go through everything step by step each time and it just seems like nothing sticks. I even create documentation for him and he just can't follow it fully.
I'm truly baffled and any advice is welcome.
Fire him. Not able to follow procedure. So many people do not deserve jobs.
May you live in exactly the kind of society you ask for.
So much fucking this. So many people these days are straight up just useless at their jobs, but companies and managers tend to fall into some sort of toxic positivity bullshit and it's just so hard to give negative feedback to someone notoriously bad at their job somehow. An advice would be to just keep it honest and expect some sort of improvement, otherwise they may try their luck somewhere else.
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During a zoom, I was presenting my full screen and was opening a new tab instantly with the scroll wheel click and the zoomers on the call was mind blown.
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Me trying to show a zoomed where a file is on the network. Me: "Open file explorer" Zoomer: "What?" Me: "Files..." Zoomer: "Huh?" Me: "Just click the folder." Zoomer: "Ohhhhhh"
Almost as bad as watching my boomer coworker open notepad and drag a file into it. Just double click or right click open with. Ahhhhh.
A few years ago I saw an article that Gen Z struggled with file organization. In basic terms, search functions have gotten so good that the majority of Gen Z doesn't use file organization on computers or phones. When in a work setting they are confused when digital items need to be organized into a file structure. Part of the problem is that most of them have never had to use a real world filing system. Part of the problem is that they are only used to handling their own disorganized files. In a business setting it generally isn't acceptable to dump all your files into a local "Downloads" file and rely on the search function to locate mission critical files.
When the article I am referencing came out other people stated that they had experienced similar phenomena in the PC world. They remembered when soldering was an expected norm of PC building, but with the passage of time it was no longer necessary or expected.
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I teach CS at the freshman level. I don't use a Mac, but I had to spend ten minutes over zoom teaching the basic functions to a student who didn't know where the notepad equivalent was.
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My gen z son is like a computer wizard to me a fairly proficient millennial so I don’t think it’s a generational thing
Both outliers. I teach high schoolers and watching them use a computer is a suicide claxon.
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